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I2P (invisiblenet) Development Meeting 11

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--- Log opened Tue Sep 17 22:59:26 2002

23:01 -!- mode/#iip-dev [+v logger] by mids

23:54 * Roto waves

23:54 <@mids> ssh, we arent started :)

23:55 < Lorax> Heh, I am already logged.

23:56 * Lorax waves to any SRHers.

23:59 < Lorax> anyway, if IIP could pass psudonymous keys then SSL can be used, as it's the connection that is secure, not the conversation. (Unless you have previously established socially satisfactory identification exchange.)

--- Day changed Wed Sep 18 2002

00:00 <@mids> hush

00:01 <@mids> we start in 1 hour

00:01 < Lorax> but we are here now.

00:01 <@mids> but the others aint

00:01 <@mids> its not fair to start :)

00:01 -!- mode/#iip-dev [+m] by mids

00:02 -!- Chocolate changed the topic of #iip-dev to: IIP meeting | logs: http://mids.student.utwente.nl/~mids/iip/ | Topic: not started

00:03 <@Chocolate> starting in about 1 hour

00:04 -!- mode/#iip-dev [-m] by Chocolate

00:23 < Lorax> Why are the logs recording to a website already then? hrm? ;)

00:23 <+logger> we are testing the live nsa wiretap

00:24 < Lorax> ah, that is senseable.

00:51 < nop> hi

00:51 < Roto> hulloz

00:53 < thecrypto> hello

00:53 < nop> http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/supergeek/story/0,24330,3347481,00.html

00:53 < nop> friend of mine

00:54 -!- mode/#iip-dev [+o codeshark] by Trent

00:54 < nop> just got back from a deposition

01:00 <@mids> Tue Sep 17 23:00:09 UTC 2002

01:00 <@mids> Welcome everybody

01:00 <@mids> this is the 11th IIP meeting

01:00 <@mids> maybe more, but then I lost count

01:00 <@mids> :)

01:00 <@mids> Agenda for now:

01:00 <@mids> rc2 status update

01:00 <@mids> website

01:00 <@mids> open mic

01:01 <@mids> .

01:01 < Roto> .

01:01 <@mids> nop is on the phone, but he might drop in

01:01 <@mids> like you all know, rc2 has been 'almost there' for a long time

01:01 <@mids> but it didnt work

01:01 <@mids> now it does better :)

01:01 <@mids> userx fixed some bugs with the end-end crypto

01:02 <@mids> and with the 1.1 protocol

01:02 <@mids> I tested it this weekend, and it works great

01:02 <@mids> you can even do 2048 bit encryption etc

01:02 <@mids> so, one step closer to the release

01:02 <@mids> (heh we did say that often)

01:02 <@mids> .

01:03 < codeshark2> what is needed for the release? except the inform stuff?

01:03 -!- codeshark is now known as nickthief53256

01:03 -!- codeshark2 is now known as codeshark

01:03 <@mids> only some minor things: fixup of the commandline help

01:03 <@mids> manpage check

01:04 <@mids> cant think about more

01:04 -!- mode/#iip-dev [+o codeshark] by Trent

01:04 <@codeshark> so, the source is ready

01:04 <@mids> I'd say so

01:05 <@codeshark> ok, i think we should create a build for internal testing then

01:05 <@codeshark> .

01:05 <@mids> ack (pending nops status)

01:05 <@codeshark> and set up inform for the new protocol

01:06 -!- Chocolate changed the topic of #iip-dev to: IIP meeting | logs: http://mids.student.utwente.nl/~mids/iip/ | Topic: RC2

01:06 <@mids> more rc2?

01:06 <@codeshark> another thing we should discuss is: version numbers

01:06 <@codeshark> why call it rc2 ;)

01:06 <@codeshark> .

01:06 <@mids> release candidate

01:07 <@codeshark> yeah sure, but we changed a lot of stuff between rc1 and rc3

01:07 <@codeshark> rc2

01:07 <@mids> yes we did

01:07 <@mids> it aint proper naming this way

01:07 <@mids> based on the changes we should be at 1.3 now

01:08 <@codeshark> yes

01:08 <@codeshark> we could call it 1.3 RC-2 (and then make a final 1.3 soon)

01:08 <@mids> nah

01:09 <@mids> I'd say continue with the numbering like we do now

01:09 <@mids> and in the future, release more often

01:10 <@codeshark> ack

01:10 <@mids> .

01:10 <@codeshark> .

01:10 <@mids> next thing: website

01:10 <@mids> nop reviewed most text, some stuff is reworded

01:11 <@mids> ellison (the designer) is now making a layout for the support page

01:11 -!- Chocolate changed the topic of #iip-dev to: IIP meeting | logs: http://mids.student.utwente.nl/~mids/iip/ | Topic: website

01:11 <@mids> should be there in a week

01:12 <@mids> the latest version of the site is on http://mids.student.utwente.nl/~mids/iip/www/

01:12 <@mids> and in CVS ofcourse

01:12 <@mids> .

01:12 <@mids> site should be up soon too

01:12 <@mids> .

01:13 * mids hands the mic over to codeshark

01:13 <@codeshark> nothing to add ;)

01:13 <@codeshark> .

01:13 <@mids> yes you do

01:13 <@codeshark> i do?

01:13 <@mids> tell em about your work with the public nodes

01:13 <@codeshark> about the website?

01:13 <@codeshark> ok

01:13 <@mids> how you rescued 2000

01:13 <@codeshark> 23

01:14 <@codeshark> our inform server does very strict checking on the relay nodes: our list has been reduced to about 6 nodes

01:15 <@codeshark> i disabled one of these checks to allow nodes to be down more often

01:15 <@codeshark> and most important:

01:15 <@codeshark> i rescued all nodes ever added to inform and checked if they're still up

01:16 <@codeshark> now, we have 23 nodes in our list

01:16 <@codeshark> .

01:16 < _42> how are nodes added to inform?

01:16 < nop> awesom

01:16 < nop> when you announce

01:16 < nop> it sends a message to inform

01:17 <@codeshark> just for the statist guys here: i added 1125 hosts from the log

01:17 < nop> you know that's a lot of downloads ;)

01:18 <@codeshark> about 300 of them were valid (dns resolves...) and unique hosts

01:18 <@codeshark> .

01:18 <@mids> currently we have 9 nodes on the list... in about 5 days (after the inform testing) that will be 23 (if they keep up)

01:18 <@mids> .

01:19 <@codeshark> right now 22/23 are up

01:19 <@codeshark> .

01:19 -!- mids changed the topic of #iip-dev to: IIP meeting | logs: http://mids.student.utwente.nl/~mids/iip/ | Topic: hurray for the saviour of the public nodes

01:20 < Roto> .

01:20 <@mids> okay, I am out of agenda items

01:20 < nop> rc2

01:20 <@mids> maybe nop has something to add

01:20 < nop> rc2 will be released with website release

01:20 < nop> we will be spending this week thoroughly testing it from a developer's standpoint

01:20 <@codeshark> nop: we should create an internal build of rc2 asap

01:21 < nop> agreed

01:21 < _42> What new features will be added to rc2?

01:21 <@codeshark> so we can set up the network and test inform

01:21 < nop> Perfect Forward Security

01:21 < nop> 160 bit encryption end to end

01:21 < nop> 1536 bit network id

01:21 < nop> 2048 bit PFS keys

01:21 <@codeshark> .

01:21 < nop> and all around just general bug fixes

01:21 < nop> I will get a changelog

01:22 < nop> .

01:23 <@mids> I guess its open microphone time

01:24 <@mids> you can reread the chatlogs of this and the previous meetings on http://mids.student.utwente.nl/~mids/iip/

01:24 <@mids> questions? (I know that Lorax had some... :)

01:25 -!- Chocolate changed the topic of #iip-dev to: IIP meeting | logs: http://mids.student.utwente.nl/~mids/iip/ | Topic: open mic

01:25 <@Chocolate> Lorax timed out

01:25 <@mids> I know :)

01:26 * Roto cheerleads

01:26 <@Chocolate> I'd like to raise the issue of saner version numbers

01:27 <@Chocolate> the feature changes from rc1 to rc2 where realy a minor version increment, not updates to a beta release

01:30 <@mids> the updates got out of hand

01:30 <@mids> for the common good.. but that is no excuse :)

01:37 <+logger> official part is over, if you got more questions; ask here or in #iip

01:37 <+logger> cya next week

--- Log closed Wed Sep 18 01:37:46 2002

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