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I2P dev meeting, October 4, 2005

16:16 < jrandom> 0) hi

16:16 < jrandom> 1) 0.6.1.1

16:16 < jrandom> 2) i2phex

16:16 <@protokol> speaking of, whats the news on legion and i2phex

16:16 < jrandom> 3) syndie

16:16 < jrandom> 4) ???

16:16 < jrandom> 0) hi

16:16 * jrandom waves

16:16 < jrandom> weekly status notes posted up to http://dev.i2p.net/pipermail/i2p/2005-October/000939.html

16:17 <+postman> hi

16:17 < jrandom> might as well jump into 1) 0.6.1.1

16:18 <+postman> ya

16:18 < jrandom> the network has been growing in number and in usage, but things have been doing pretty well

16:18 <+postman> .. apart from the irc servers

16:18 < jrandom> aye, thats an interesting one

16:19 < jrandom> (the irc servers are currently running an older rev, and we're still working on some debugging to understand exactly why things are the way they are)

16:19 <+Ragnarok> what happened?

16:20 < jrandom> hopefully we'll get the irc servers upgraded sooner rather than later, as there has been some good stuff lately

16:20 < cervantes> Ragnarok: server<->server link is shakey under 1.1

16:20 <+Ragnarok> weird

16:20 < jrandom> 0.6.1.1, that is ;)

16:20 <+Complication> protokol: see forum, he finally opted for a sensible approach

16:20 <+postman> cervantes: don't mention the time travel, idiot

16:20 < cervantes> 0.6.1.x

16:20 <+postman> :)

16:21 < cervantes> oop

16:21 <+postman> jrandom: i hope i'll be able to build a test ircd this week

16:21 <+postman> jrandom: we could link to an instance run by you or cervantes

16:22 < jrandom> aye, that'd be great. we could even split off the different tunnels into different jvms, using different streaming libs and router versions, to isolate the issue further

16:23 < jrandom> it'd be cool if we could do that before 0.6.1.2, but if not, no big deal

16:24 < jrandom> ok, anyone else have anything for 1) 0.6.1.1?

16:24 <+postman> jrandom: apart from that: runs like hell

16:24 < jrandom> would that be a good hell or a bad hell? :)

16:24 <+postman> a hell of a hell :)

16:25 <+Complication> Eh, managed to cause a few more errors (but those were really, really borderline stuff, router restart under a running i2phex.) Will send privately.

16:26 < jrandom> ah cool, thanks Complication

16:26 <+Complication> (e.g. they probably won't hurt anyone in real life)

16:26 < jrandom> heh never underestimate people's ability to break things :)

16:27 < cervantes> or the ingenuity of fools in testing fool proof systems

16:27 <+postman> yea, make something fool proof and you'll be rewarded with a new kind of fool

16:28 < jrandom> hallelujah

16:29 < jrandom> ok, anything else for 1), or shall we move on to 2) i2phex

16:30 < jrandom> there has been a lot of discussion as of late, and legion has agreed to merge back the changes made into sirup's i2phex codebase.

16:30 <+postman> move

16:30 < jrandom> this is quite cool, as it'll be great for us all to benefit from legion's hard work while remaining entirely open and secure

16:31 <+Ragnarok> what did he actually do?

16:33 < jrandom> latest changes include the addition of systray4j, striker's timeout updates, increased tunnel length defaults, some nsis and jni stuff, and a few other changes

16:33 <+Ragnarok> hm, ok

16:33 <+postman> jrandom: so there're a bunch of improvements - those will be kept tho?

16:34 < jrandom> certainly, all good stuff will be integrated into i2phex

16:34 < jrandom> there are a few things i'm not so sure of, but that'll be discussed with legion outside of the meeting ;)

16:35 <+postman> k

16:36 < jrandom> ok, anyone else have anything for 2) i2phex? or shall we move on to 3) syndie?

16:37 * postman prepares his syndie500 franchising goods

16:37 < jrandom> heh

16:37 < jrandom> ok, Ragnarok, wanna give us the rundown on the latest?

16:37 <+Ragnarok> hm, ok

16:38 <+Ragnarok> Syndie will now get new posts from an archive automatically.

16:38 <+Ragnarok> you can set which archives you want to get updates from, and set how often you do it in the syndie config file

16:39 <+Ragnarok> more details about that are in history.txt

16:39 <+Ragnarok> it needs a ui, but otherwise it's essentially done

16:39 <+Ragnarok> 'course, no one seems to be posting anything recently, so maybe it's not that useful :)

16:40 < jrandom> [insert field of dreams quote here]

16:40 < jrandom> thanks Ragnarok, this has been an oft requested feature

16:41 <+Ragnarok> cool

16:41 <+Ragnarok> happy to do it, wasn't really that much work

16:42 <+Ragnarok> mostly just scratching my own itch :)

16:42 < cervantes> oh wasn't it? or forget it then :P

16:42 < cervantes> or=oh

16:42 <+postman> (hush, the genius must not admit that it needs to work hard too)

16:42 <+Ragnarok> hehe

16:43 <+Ragnarok> anyway, if anyone's got bug reports/feature requests/boos/cheers/etc. let me know

16:43 < jrandom> (cheers!)

16:43 <+Ragnarok> next thing I'm thinking of is auto matically importing petnames seen in posts into the routers petname db, but that looks like it could be complicated...

16:44 <+Ragnarok> but, it would essentially allow syndie to replace addressbook

16:44 < jrandom> that would be Very Cool

16:44 <+nickless_head> yeah :)

16:45 <+Ragnarok> I just have to figure out how to get a list of petnames out of the archive

16:45 <+Ragnarok> everything else is trivial

16:45 <+nickless_head> ragnarok: are your changes already in cvs? (too lazy to read the whole discussion) :)

16:45 <+Ragnarok> yeah

16:45 <+nickless_head> :happy:

16:45 * nickless_head considers cvs update

16:45 <+Ragnarok> have been since yesterday

16:45 <+nickless_head> nah, probably better to wait for the next release

16:45 < jrandom> perhaps get the petnames whenever they're rendered, exposed via the HTMLRenderer (in the addressReceived)

16:46 <+Ragnarok> ok, I'll look into that

16:46 < jrandom> cool, thanks Ragnarok

16:47 <+Ragnarok> well, that's it from me, unless there's questions

16:49 < jrandom> wr0d. ok, jumping on to 4) ???

16:49 < jrandom> anyone have anything else to bring up for the meeting?

16:49 < cervantes> aye

16:49 * nickless_head looks at cervantes interestedly

16:50 <+fox> <mancom> is there anything new on Q or feedspace?

16:50 <+postman> nickless_head: hey, he's mine - don't dare to stare at him like that :)

16:50 <+nickless_head> I'm not staring at him .. I'm looking at him interestedly.

16:51 < cervantes> After some deliberation I've revived the "Forum User of the Month" spot - and this month it deservedly has gone to Complication for outstanding forum contributions

16:51 <+nickless_head> congratulations complication!

16:51 <+postman> kudos :)

16:51 < cervantes> so he gets an avatar (whether he likes it or not) :P

16:51 <+Complication> Heh, I hope my blunders have been less outstanding. :O :D

16:52 <@protokol> oh yeah

16:52 < jrandom> w00t! thanks Complication

16:52 < cervantes> (which is active now)

16:52 <@protokol> hows that Yellow Submarine i2phex test going

16:52 <@protokol> any notable speeds or lack thereof?

16:52 <+Complication> It's going.

16:52 < jrandom> mancom: nothing new regarding Q or feedspace

16:53 <+Complication> No hyperfast speeds, but a guaranteed good-enough speed, I'd say.

16:53 < jrandom> protokol: last i heard was 10-20KBps, but thats just stuff on the forum

16:53 <@protokol> im downloading it right now

16:53 * nickless_head understands what postman implied

16:53 * nickless_head blushes

16:53 <+Complication> (also: I re-read part of the tech intro, and couldn't find flaw with the network comparisons. I think they're good enough.)

16:54 <+postman> nickless_head: LOL (sorry)

16:54 * Complication looks at the avatar and grins :D

16:54 <+nickless_head> postman: *GG* (no problem)

16:54 < cat-a-puss> Has anything been done in an effort to get "Amazon honor system" as an alternate method of collecting donations?

16:54 <+Complication> Spot on. :P

16:55 <@protokol> cat-a-puss: what do you mean?

16:55 < jrandom> not yet cat-a-puss, haven't seen wilde around

16:55 < jrandom> woah, hey phedy

16:55 < phedy> Hi jrandom.

16:55 < cat-a-puss> protokol: it's like pay-pal, except you can use an account you have with amazon.com to make payment

16:56 < jrandom> Complication: thanks re: the comparisons. there are a few cleanups left, but its coming along

16:56 <@protokol> weak

16:56 <+Complication> (not that I know Tor or Freenet in decent degree, although I've used both)

16:57 * cat-a-puss is thinking of creating a bounty for helping finish the distributed search engine.

16:57 < jrandom> (before putting the doc out on the normal website i'll run it by those folks for comment)

16:58 < cervantes> Complication: it's an art installation on a roundabout in London that causes havoc with the traffic ;-)

16:59 < jrandom> cat-a-puss: i've got to work out some other financial stuff soon anyway, so shall let you know asap

16:59 < jrandom> ok, anyone else have anything to bring up for the meeting?

16:59 < cat-a-puss> oh if we want documents translated to some other languages before 1.0, I may know people who could help with Spanish and Chinese.

16:59 < cat-a-puss> ok

16:59 < jrandom> kickass, that'd be great

17:00 <+Complication> cervantes: thanks for telling, I wasn't aware where such an, umm... effect occurred :D

17:00 < jrandom> there's a draft tech intro floating around in cvs, and we'll eventually want whatever our website redesign turns out to contain to be translated

17:03 * nickless_head goes to sleep

17:03 < jrandom> i suppose i should grab the baffer...

17:03 < jrandom> if there's nothing else

17:03 * jrandom winds up

17:03 * jrandom *baf*s the meeting closed

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