15:00 < jrandom> 0) hi
15:00 < jrandom> 1) Net status
15:00 < jrandom> 2) Syndie dev status
15:00 < jrandom> 3) iToopie
15:00 < jrandom> 4) ???
15:00 < jrandom> 0) hi
15:00 * jrandom waves
15:00 < jrandom> weekly status notes posted up at http://dev.i2p.net/pipermail/i2p/2006-December/001321.html
15:01 < jrandom> (almost two hours before the meeting, too! :)
15:01 < jrandom> ok, lets jump on in to 1) net status
15:01 < jrandom> things are going pretty well, no big change on this front
15:02 * jrandom has been connected to irc here for 20 days now, too (a record, i believe)
15:03 < jrandom> not much more to add on this front though atm
15:03 < jrandom> so, if there's nothing else on it, lets jump forward to 2) syndie dev status
15:04 < jrandom> progress continues here, with more bits and bobs becoming workable
15:04 < jrandom> its still quite rough though... "utilitarian", but graphically utilitarian ;)
15:05 < jrandom> the alpha isn't imminent though, but i hope to have it ready soon
15:07 < jrandom> in any case, more info as it comes about :)
15:08 < jrandom> ok, lets jump briefly on over to 3) iToopie
15:08 < jrandom> as mentioned in the notes, Thanks y'all! :)
15:08 < jrandom> ok, continuing on in rapid fire to 4) ???
15:08 < jrandom> anyone have anything they'd like to bring up for the meeting?
15:10 < jrandom> (its probably been a year or two since our last 10 minute meeting, but perhaps that's for the best)
15:10 <+fox> <Ch0Hag> Hey wow. Totally by accident I am actually present for an I2P meeting.
15:11 <+fox> <Ch0Hag> Hi mum!
15:11 <+fox> <Ch0Hag> This is going in the logs right? :)
15:11 < jrandom> heh yeah ch0 ;)
15:12 <+fox> <Ch0Hag> Because of course my mum reads I2P meeting logs...
15:12 < burl> i was going to ask about the licensing but i just read the answer on www.i2p (why not gpl?)
15:13 < jrandom> gpl kills babies
15:13 * jrandom ducks
15:13 < burl> i have to print them out for my mum. she's not very good with computers
15:13 < jrandom> heheh
15:14 < burl> i've been reading all about the free software movement recently. ethically it seems bang on
15:14 < burl> closed source is evil :)
15:14 < jrandom> good, evil, they're all the same. what matters here is that closed source is /insecure/ ;)
15:15 < jrandom> (syndie license summary @ http://syndie.i2p.net/faq.html#license less religious license info for i2p @ http://www.i2p.net/licenses )
15:15 < burl> yeah, that did cross my mind too. if some evil company stole syndie and made a "better" closed version, who'd trust it?
15:16 < jrandom> you can't steal whats free
15:16 < burl> yeah, but i mean made changes to the source and didn't let you see them
15:17 < jrandom> changes to /your copy/ of the source. my copy of the source is still exactly as it was before, and still exactly as free ;)
15:17 < jrandom> but, yeah, i understand. disagree, but understand
15:18 < jrandom> all things considered, open source>>closed source, and while gpl has some nasty limits, its sufficient for many things, and open enough for security
15:18 < burl> because no-one would trust the closed version so it could never take over in popularity
15:20 < jrandom> aye
15:21 < jrandom> licence rants are always good ways to fill up 10m of meeting logs ;)
15:21 < jrandom> ok, anyone have anything else for the meeting?
15:23 <+fox> <Ch0Hag> Well if you need more meeting time - why Java?
15:23 <+fox> <Ch0Hag> I mean ewww!
15:23 < jrandom> !thwap
15:24 * jrandom winds up
15:24 * jrandom *baf*s the meeting closed