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{% block content %}<h3>Tuesday, Jan 13, 2004 22:00:00 CET</h3>
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<p>[22:01] &lt;jrand0m&gt; 0) hi</p>
<p>[22:01] &lt;jrand0m&gt; 1) 0.2.3.4</p>
<p>[22:01] &lt;jrand0m&gt; 2) 0.3</p>
<p>[22:01] &lt;jrand0m&gt; 3) streaming library, I2COCP, CI2CP</p>
<p>[22:01] &lt;jrand0m&gt; 4) apps</p>
<p>[22:01] &lt;jrand0m&gt; 5) ???</p>
<p>[22:01] &lt;jrand0m&gt; 0) hi</p>
<p>[22:01] &lt;jrand0m&gt; hi everyone</p>
<p>[22:01] &lt;jrand0m&gt; y'all seen http://i2p.dnsalias.net/pipermail/i2p/2004-January/000082.html?</p>
<p>[22:01] &lt;jrand0m&gt; if not, now's your chance :)</p>
<p>[22:02] &lt;jrand0m&gt; iip has been acting up a bit, so if someone could say something every once in a while, that'd be swell </p>
<p>[22:02] &lt;MrEcho&gt; .</p>
<p>[22:02] &lt;jrand0m&gt; w3rd</p>
<p>[22:02] &lt;jrand0m&gt; ok, moving on, 1) 0.2.3.4</p>
<p>[22:03] &lt;jrand0m&gt; there'll be a new release in the next day or so with the current state of the code, which includes a lot of bugfixes and more features</p>
<p>[22:03] &lt;jrand0m&gt; e.g. tunnelmanager isn't in 0.2.3.3 yet</p>
<p>[22:03] &lt;MrEcho&gt; col</p>
<p>[22:03] &lt;jrand0m&gt; it'll be backwards incompatible, because i'm mean</p>
<p>[22:04] &lt;jrand0m&gt; jumping onto 2) 0.3</p>
<p>[22:04] &lt;MrEcho&gt; :P</p>
<p>[22:04] &lt;jrand0m&gt; that'll be out fairly soon, but obviously not on thursday</p>
<p>[22:04] &lt;jrand0m&gt; it won't be out until 0.2.3.4 is performing reliably so that everyone can reach all sites they should be able to</p>
<p>[22:05] &lt;MrEcho&gt; cool</p>
<p>[22:05] &lt;jrand0m&gt; well, moving right along to 3) streaming lib / etc</p>
<p>[22:05] &lt;jrand0m&gt; well, thats all spelled out in the email :)</p>
<p>[22:05] * eco has joined #i2p</p>
<p>[22:05] * mihi_away is now known as mihi</p>
<p>[22:05] &lt;jrand0m&gt; if anyone wants to get involved in it, please let me know</p>
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<p>[22:06] &lt;jrand0m&gt; 'lo eco, mihi, ion</p>
<p>[22:06] &lt;jrand0m&gt; ok, moving on to 4) apps </p>
<p>[22:06] &lt;jrand0m&gt; anyone working on an app that will run over i2p that has anything to add?</p>
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<p>[22:07] &lt;MrEcho&gt; re ask the quest j</p>
<p>[22:07] &lt;jrand0m&gt; well, we're at the last agenda item, so might as well :)</p>
<p>[22:08] &lt;MrEcho&gt; wiht .. get my email?</p>
<p>[22:08] &lt;jrand0m&gt; anyone have anything to bring up outside the http://i2p.dnsalias.net/pipermail/i2p/2004-January/000082.html post?</p>
<p>[22:08] &lt;wiht&gt; Yes, let me read it.</p>
<p>[22:08] &lt;jrand0m&gt; MrEcho&gt; have you read zooko's naming page yet?</p>
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<p>[22:08] &lt;MrEcho&gt; no .. lost the link</p>
<p>[22:09] &lt;jrand0m&gt; (from the logs last week, http://zooko.com/distnames.html)</p>
<p>[22:10] &lt;jrand0m&gt; anyone have anything to add, or are we at a record breaking 10 minute meeting?</p>
<p>[22:10] &lt;MrEcho&gt; still working on my dns idea</p>
<p>[22:10] &lt;jrand0m&gt; coo'</p>
<p>[22:10] &lt;wiht&gt; MrEcho: Yes, I would like to work together on naming service.</p>
<p>[22:10] &lt;MrEcho&gt; sweet</p>
<p>[22:11] &lt;wiht&gt; But I will not have time until next Wednesday.</p>
<p>[22:11] &lt;MrEcho&gt; ok</p>
<p>[22:11] &lt;MrEcho&gt; will give me some time to finish up on a few things</p>
<p>[22:11] &lt;mrflibble&gt; how long till the meet?</p>
<p>[22:11] &lt;jrand0m&gt; -11 minutes</p>
<p>[22:11] &lt;mrflibble&gt; oops</p>
<p>[22:11] * mrflibble is v late</p>
<p>[22:11] &lt;mrflibble&gt; :)</p>
<p>[22:12] &lt;jrand0m&gt; (we've gone through the 5 agenda items very very quicky :)</p>
<p>[22:12] * mrflibble goes back to lurking and the backscroll</p>
<p>[22:12] &lt;jrand0m&gt; heh</p>
<p>[22:12] &lt;wiht&gt; jrand0m: Have you measured how much CPU is used per tunnel by the server?</p>
<p>[22:14] &lt;wiht&gt; Let me restate that: if you have five connections to other routers, and they are using 20% of CPU, how much will be used after 6th connection? Have you measured this?</p>
<p>[22:15] &lt;jrand0m&gt; they shouldn't consume 20% of the cpu, or even 1%</p>
<p>[22:15] &lt;jrand0m&gt; (for client tunnels - server tunnels may consume more)</p>
<p>[22:15] &lt;wiht&gt; Server tunnels.</p>
<p>[22:16] * eco has quit IRC (Ping timeout)</p>
<p>[22:16] &lt;wiht&gt; But that will probably be dependent on your CPU speed, so that was a badly stated question.</p>
<p>[22:16] &lt;jrand0m&gt; server tunnels before the streaming lib will require cpu load whenever a new peer connects </p>
<p>[22:18] &lt;wiht&gt; All right.</p>
<p>[22:19] &lt;duck&gt; are we at #5 already?</p>
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<p>[22:19] &lt;jrand0m&gt; yup</p>
<p>[22:20] * duck mentions the hosting options that home.duck.i2p provides</p>
<p>[22:20] &lt;jrand0m&gt; ooOOoo</p>
<p>[22:20] &lt;duck&gt; it hasnt been tested by anybody besides me though</p>
<p>[22:20] &lt;duck&gt; waiting for betatester Ardvark to show up</p>
<p>[22:20] &lt;jrand0m&gt; so the hosting lets someone run apache / etc?</p>
<p>[22:21] &lt;jrand0m&gt; (or do they have to run the i2p router?</p>
<p>[22:21] &lt;duck&gt; neither</p>
<p>[22:21] &lt;duck&gt; they can put their html files on /home/username/public_html/</p>
<p>[22:21] &lt;duck&gt; and it will show up on http://home.duck.i2p/~username/</p>
<p>[22:21] &lt;jrand0m&gt; ah nice</p>
<p>[22:21] &lt;jrand0m&gt; php support?  cgi / .pl / etc?  or just html?</p>
<p>[22:22] &lt;jrand0m&gt; (thats kick fucking ass, in any case)</p>
<p>[22:22] &lt;duck&gt; php and html</p>
<p>[22:22] &lt;jrand0m&gt; wwwwwwwwwicked</p>
<p>[22:22] &lt;mihi&gt; duck: won't that compromize your anonymity?</p>
<p>[22:22] &lt;duck&gt; how?</p>
<p>[22:22] &lt;mihi&gt; phpshell?</p>
<p>[22:22] &lt;mihi&gt; or is the full apache in a vmware/UML box?</p>
<p>[22:22] &lt;duck&gt; system, exec, etc are disabled</p>
<p>[22:23] &lt;duck&gt; plus the host cant connect to the outsite</p>
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<p>[22:23] &lt;duck&gt; (it is inside an UML box)</p>
<p>[22:23] &lt;duck&gt; (pl and other cgis are too difficult to debug without shell access, plus they often break)</p>
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<p>[22:23] &lt;jrand0m&gt; jsp access?  :)</p>
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<p>[22:23] &lt;duck&gt; ofcourse not</p>
<p>[22:24] &lt;mihi&gt; and why not ssh access as well, when it's an UML box?</p>
<p>[22:24] &lt;duck&gt; because the average IIP user will start running forkbombs</p>
<p>[22:24] &lt;jrand0m&gt; with ssh access, they could traceroute i2p.dnsalias.net</p>
<p>[22:24] &lt;mihi&gt; man ulimit</p>
<p>[22:24] &lt;jrand0m&gt; ah true</p>
<p>[22:24] &lt;mihi&gt; man limiting cpu time on uml boxes.</p>
<p>[22:25] &lt;mihi&gt; (okay, it will crash apache, shit...)</p>
<p>[22:25] &lt;duck&gt; man run your own host :)</p>
<p>[22:25] &lt;jrand0m&gt; hehe</p>
<p>[22:25] &lt;lucky&gt; hi</p>
<p>[22:25] &lt;duck&gt; I'll add it on the todo</p>
<p>[22:25] &lt;jrand0m&gt; a reliable hosting service provider will RULE</p>
<p>[22:25] &lt;kaji&gt; now all we need is a wiki</p>
<p>[22:25] * wiht has left #i2p (wiht)</p>
<p>[22:26] * lucky has a reliable net connection...</p>
<p>[22:26] &lt;duck&gt; you already have a wiki</p>
<p>[22:26] &lt;jrand0m&gt; kaji&gt; duck.i2p has one</p>
<p>[22:26] &lt;duck&gt; wiki.invisiblenet.net</p>
<p>[22:26] &lt;jrand0m&gt; that too</p>
<p>[22:26] &lt;kaji&gt; oh sweet then</p>
<p>[22:26] &lt;jrand0m&gt; (yeah, the main i2p wiki is http://wiki.invisiblenet.net/iip-wiki?I2P )</p>
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<p>[22:29] &lt;jrand0m&gt; 'k, anything else before we close out the meeting?</p>
<p>[22:29] &lt;kaji&gt; doh, i missed the meeting?</p>
<p>[22:29] &lt;jrand0m&gt; we're not quite done yet, but about it</p>
<p>[22:29] &lt;lucky&gt; meeting?</p>
<p>[22:29] &lt;lucky&gt; Oh, thats so not fair</p>
<p>[22:29] &lt;lucky&gt; i just got home.</p>
<p>[22:29] &lt;wilde&gt; are there logs anywhere?</p>
<p>[22:29] &lt;wilde&gt; meeting log</p>
<p>[22:30] * lucky has a log...</p>
<p>[22:30] &lt;kaji&gt; can some one write a howto for using wget over i2p in windows?</p>
<p>[22:30] &lt;jrand0m&gt; meeting logs at http://wiki.invisiblenet.net/iip-wiki?Meetings</p>
<p>[22:30] &lt;jrand0m&gt; kaji you'll probably need to add the http_proxy to the environment</p>
<p>[22:32] &lt;jrand0m&gt; ok, lets wrap this one up, and I'll post up the logs momentarily.  anyone who has anything else can post to the mailing list or just chat on here :)</p>
<p>[22:32] &lt;kaji&gt; also im now sharing /books/ and /audio/ at kaji.i2p and i think i will make a short howto about the bugs in apache alias for windows</p>
<p>[22:32] &lt;jrand0m&gt; word kaji!</p>
<p>[22:32] * jrand0m *baf*s the meeting closed on that note</p>
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