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<h3>I2P (invisiblenet) Development Meeting 20</h3>
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Courtesy of <a href="http://www.archive.org/">the wayback machine</a>.
<p>
<p>--- Log opened Tue Nov 19 23:51:34 2002
<p>23:52 &lt; logger&gt; test
<p>23:52 -!- mode/#iip-dev [+o mids] by Trent
<p>23:52 -!- mode/#iip-dev [+v logger] by mids
<p>23:53 -!- mode/#iip-dev [+oo nop UserX] by mids
<p>23:57 &lt;@mids&gt; public IIP meeting in channel #iip-dev starting in 2.5 minutes
<p>23:57 &lt; nemesis&gt; lol
<p>23:57 &lt; zic&gt; anybody from Ukrain? message me! hehehe
<p>23:58 -!- mode/#iip-dev [+o hezekiah] by mids
<p>23:58 &lt;@hezekiah&gt; Hello again, mids!
<p>23:58 &lt; Robert&gt; Hey Nemesis, have you seen http://www.bash.org/?top
<p>23:58 * athena sees hezekiah in a whole new light :p
<p>23:58 &lt; nemesis&gt; bash?
<p>23:58 &lt;@mids&gt; Robert: they are down
<p>23:58 &lt;@mids&gt; what!
<p>23:58 &lt;@mids&gt; they are back!
<p>--- Day changed Wed Nov 20 2002
<p>00:00 &lt;@mids&gt; Tue Nov 19 23:00:00 UTC 2002
<p>00:00 &lt;@nop&gt; welcome
<p>00:00 &lt;@nop&gt; welcome
<p>00:00 &lt;@nop&gt; to the 20th?
<p>00:00 &lt;@nop&gt; IIP meeting
<p>00:00 &lt;@hezekiah&gt; 20th!
<p>00:00 &lt;@mids&gt; yes
<p>00:00 &lt;@nop&gt; yes on the agenda today...
<p>00:01 &lt;@nop&gt; mids...
<p>00:01 &lt;@mids&gt; 1) welcome
<p>00:02 &lt;@mids&gt; 2) getting rc3 out
<p>00:02 &lt;@mids&gt; 3) sneak preview on rc3
<p>00:02 &lt;@mids&gt; 4) snacks and drinks
<p>00:02 &lt;@mids&gt; 5) questions
<p>00:02 &lt;@mids&gt; .
<p>00:02 &lt;@nop&gt; thnx
<p>00:02 &lt;@nop&gt; ok
<p>00:02 &lt;@nop&gt; so we are having rc3 officially released thursday
<p>00:02 &lt;@nop&gt; please mark that in your calendars
<p>00:02 &lt;@mids&gt; we hope :)
<p>00:02 &lt;@mids&gt; (unless sourceforge is down again)
<p>00:03 &lt;@nop&gt; right, did they fix the ro on nfs?
<p>00:03 &lt;@mids&gt; yes
<p>00:03 &lt;@nop&gt; was it their mistake?
<p>00:03 &lt; tarpY&gt; i am here for the food
<p>00:03 &lt;@mids&gt; it was announced on their status page btw
<p>00:03 &lt;@nop&gt; ok
<p>00:03 &lt;@mids&gt; maintenance
<p>00:03 &lt;@nop&gt; gotcha
<p>00:03 &lt;@nop&gt; probably doing backups
<p>00:03 &lt; tarpY&gt; i wanted to order pizza off of the freenet and i found out they wont
<p>00:03 &lt;@nop&gt; :)
<p>00:03 &lt; tarpY&gt; where can i get food here
<p>00:03 &lt;@mids&gt; tarpY: #muchnies-to-take-away
<p>00:04 &lt;@nop&gt; ok
<p>00:04 &lt;@mids&gt; what will be new in rc3:
<p>00:04 &lt;@nop&gt; so Thursday we will get that out
<p>00:04 &lt;@nop&gt; oh
<p>00:04 &lt;@nop&gt; Mids, I believe you have the changelog handy
<p>00:04 &lt;@nop&gt; if not
<p>00:04 &lt;@mids&gt; me too
<p>00:04 &lt;@nop&gt; I'll display
<p>00:04 &lt;@nop&gt; ok
<p>00:04 &lt; sinster&gt; will rc3 have a decent install script for *nix?
<p>00:04 &lt;@mids&gt; - Display of version number for windows (menu option) and unix (command line).
<p>00:04 &lt;@mids&gt; - Random number generation fix.
<p>00:04 &lt;@mids&gt; - IIP network connections are no longer paused while in the setup screen.
<p>00:04 &lt;@mids&gt; - Now exits if it can't bind to a socket at startup.
<p>00:04 &lt;@mids&gt; Windows now displays a message box informing that it can't bind to port.
<p>00:04 &lt;@mids&gt; - Several bugfixes and one memory leak fixed.
<p>00:04 &lt;@mids&gt; .
<p>00:04 &lt;@mids&gt; sinster: no, that is what hezekiah is working on
<p>00:05 &lt;@mids&gt; that will be 1.2
<p>00:05 &lt;@hezekiah&gt; Not quite ...
<p>00:05 &lt;@nop&gt; ok
<p>00:05 &lt; zic&gt; are there plans for translating the (nice) faq @ help.invisiblenet.net ?
<p>00:05 &lt;@nop&gt; anyone who wants to translate
<p>00:05 &lt;@nop&gt; please do
<p>00:05 &lt; sinster&gt; mids/hezekiah: will it add iip to /etc/rc.d/ so that it starts automatically? just a suggestion
<p>00:05 &lt;@nop&gt; we would very much appreciate it
<p>00:05 &lt;@nop&gt; and have it on the site
<p>00:05 &lt; zic&gt; will rc3 demand any mod in the FAQ?
<p>00:06 &lt;@mids&gt; sinster: I got a script here... but that needs more testing
<p>00:06 &lt;@mids&gt; sinster: maybe we'll add that with 1.1 final
<p>00:06 &lt;@hezekiah&gt; sinster: that would not be distribution compatible, since different distros put startup stuff in different places.
<p>00:06 &lt;@mids&gt; zic: no
<p>00:06 &lt; sinster&gt; mids: yeah, make sure you test it on the major linux flavors, redhat, debian etc
<p>00:06 &lt;@nop&gt; well, can we wait on quesitons
<p>00:06 &lt;@nop&gt; please
<p>00:06 &lt; zic&gt; my isproxy is scripted in /etc/init.d (debian), works perfectly
<p>00:06 &lt;@mids&gt; oops
<p>00:06 &lt;@nop&gt; till the questions and answers
<p>00:06 &lt; zic&gt; sorry!
<p>00:06 &lt; zic&gt; sorry!
<p>00:06 &lt;@hezekiah&gt; Sorry.
<p>00:06 &lt;@nop&gt; it gets confusing
<p>00:06 &lt;@nop&gt; ;)
<p>00:06 &lt;@nop&gt; sorry
<p>00:06 &lt; sinster&gt; nop: ok
<p>00:06 &lt; tarpY&gt; no translating everyone should speak english.
<p>00:07 &lt; sinster&gt; nop: my bad
<p>00:07 &lt;@nop&gt; no prob
<p>00:07 &lt;@mids&gt; any questions on the changelog?
<p>00:07 &lt;@mids&gt; no?
<p>00:07 &lt;@mids&gt; nop: sneak preview?
<p>00:07 &lt;@nop&gt; hold my relay just bit the dust
<p>00:08 &lt;@nop&gt; wait till everyone comes back
<p>00:08 &lt;@mids&gt; auch
<p>00:08 &lt;@nop&gt; delay can be annoying in a meeting
<p>00:08 &lt;@nop&gt; ;)
<p>00:08 &lt;@nop&gt; everyone still here?
<p>00:08 &lt;@mids&gt; seems like it
<p>00:09 &lt;@hezekiah&gt; I didn't see anyone leave.
<p>00:09 &lt;@nop&gt; ok
<p>00:09 &lt; zic&gt; i am (does i matter? hehe)
<p>00:09 &lt;@nop&gt; well there is a delay feature we have
<p>00:09 &lt;@nop&gt; ;)
<p>00:09 &lt;@nop&gt; ok
<p>00:09 &lt; al-jabr&gt; I didn't either.
<p>00:09 &lt;@nop&gt; guess my relay got kicked off the list for unreliability
<p>00:09 &lt;@nop&gt; haha
<p>00:09 &lt;@mids&gt; hehe
<p>00:09 * Robert joins #muchnies-to-take-away while he waits...
<p>00:09 &lt;@mids&gt; there we go
<p>00:09 &lt;@nop&gt; yep
<p>00:10 &lt;@nop&gt; there's another
<p>00:10 &lt;@nop&gt; ;)
<p>00:10 &lt; al-jabr&gt; there goes five.
<p>00:10 &lt;@hezekiah&gt; We really need to do something about that. :(
<p>00:10 &lt; nemesis&gt; erm
<p>00:10 &lt; nemesis&gt; mids
<p>00:10 &lt;@nop&gt; hezekiah: spread spectrum routing
<p>00:11 &lt; tc&gt; is this glitches in the relay system?
<p>00:11 &lt;@nop&gt; ;)
<p>00:11 &lt;@nop&gt; my windows relay box crashed
<p>00:11 &lt;@nop&gt; typical
<p>00:11 &lt; nemesis&gt; for win2k / xp, thers in the future a build without gui
<p>00:11 &lt;@hezekiah&gt; lol
<p>00:11 &lt; nemesis&gt; or only gui to setup
<p>00:11 &lt; nemesis&gt; and the rest as an daemon?
<p>00:11 &lt;@nop&gt; it would be nice to have it as a service
<p>00:11 &lt;@nop&gt; ;)
<p>00:12 &lt; nemesis&gt; yes
<p>00:12 &lt; nemesis&gt; ;)
<p>00:12 &lt;@nop&gt; there is a program out there called service installer
<p>00:13 &lt;@nop&gt; ok
<p>00:13 &lt;@nop&gt; well
<p>00:13 &lt; nemesis&gt; iip.exe --install
<p>00:13 &lt;@nop&gt; no more delays
<p>00:13 &lt; nemesis&gt; like apache for win
<p>00:13 &lt;@mids&gt; is everybody already back?
<p>00:14 &lt;@nop&gt; ok
<p>00:15 &lt;@nop&gt; welcome baci
<p>00:15 &lt;@nop&gt; back
<p>00:15 &lt; nemesis&gt; matrix's neo? ;)
<p>00:15 &lt;@nop&gt; ok
<p>00:15 &lt;@nop&gt; I think they are back
<p>00:16 &lt;@mids&gt; yes
<p>00:16 &lt;@nop&gt; ok
<p>00:16 &lt;@nop&gt; sneak preview
<p>00:16 &lt;@mids&gt; I made a FLT-iip.1.1-rc3-pre1-mids-sneak-preview-screaner.tgz
<p>00:16 &lt;@mids&gt; everybody with unix can test it
<p>00:16 &lt;@mids&gt; no windows version yet
<p>00:16 &lt;@nop&gt; I can make one right now
<p>00:16 &lt;@nop&gt; if you want
<p>00:16 &lt; zic&gt; lol
<p>00:16 &lt;@mids&gt; http://mids.student.utwente.nl/~mids/iip/iip-1.1-rc3-mids1.tgz
<p>00:16 &lt; nemesis&gt; thats ok
<p>00:16 &lt; nemesis&gt; i wait
<p>00:16 &lt; zic&gt; OGG or LAME audio?
<p>00:17 &lt;@mids&gt; I am especially looking forward to reports on obscure unix versions
<p>00:17 &lt;@mids&gt; like netbsd etc
<p>00:17 &lt; nemesis&gt; i think, its not so important when a unix machine crash with 30 days uptime
<p>00:17 &lt;@mids&gt; and macosx
<p>00:17 &lt; nemesis&gt; as an windows machine with 3 days uptime ;)
<p>00:17 &lt; tc&gt; mids: is this change just in the isproxy or in any other relay stuff also?
<p>00:17 &lt;@nop&gt; no
<p>00:17 &lt;@nop&gt; you keep your settings
<p>00:17 &lt;@nop&gt; did we test that it can install over the previous one
<p>00:17 &lt;@nop&gt; hmm
<p>00:18 &lt;@nop&gt; make a note
<p>00:18 &lt; zic&gt; nemesis: but it would be cool if it never crashed. but let's kill the talking here. we are in a formal meeting
<p>00:18 &lt; nemesis&gt; hehe
<p>00:18 &lt;@nop&gt; ok
<p>00:18 &lt;@nop&gt; if anyone wants to test if the upgrade process is trivial
<p>00:18 &lt; nemesis&gt; don't test it on meeting days ;)
<p>00:18 &lt;@nop&gt; then please go ahead
<p>00:18 &lt;@nop&gt; and email or notify one of the devs of the results
<p>00:18 &lt;@mids&gt; please test it next to your current relay
<p>00:18 &lt;@mids&gt; and yes, please give feedback
<p>00:19 &lt;@mids&gt; on what went wrong
<p>00:19 &lt;@mids&gt; etc
<p>00:19 &lt;@nop&gt; wb tarpY
<p>00:19 &lt;@nop&gt; let's put that screener in the topic
<p>00:19 &lt; goc&gt; is it possible to run isproxy-rc2 and isproxy-almost-rc3 simultaneously?
<p>00:19 &lt;@nop&gt; yes
<p>00:20 &lt;@nop&gt; different port settings
<p>00:20 &lt;@nop&gt; and it's not hard at all
<p>00:20 &lt; goc&gt; where's the conf file stored?
<p>00:20 &lt;@nop&gt; but rc3 should be able to go over rc2
<p>00:20 &lt;@nop&gt; you might have to do a -f /dir
<p>00:20 &lt;@nop&gt; or you may have it go over the rc2 install
<p>00:21 &lt; tarpY&gt; are you going to eventually remove the proxy and integrate it into a client?
<p>00:21 &lt;@nop&gt; probably not
<p>00:21 &lt;@nop&gt; the idea is transparent applications
<p>00:21 &lt;@nop&gt; it's a transport medium
<p>00:21 &lt;@nop&gt; and we'll remove the server
<p>00:21 &lt;@nop&gt; and integrate it into the proxy yes
<p>00:22 &lt;@nop&gt; mids, can we have your link on the topic
<p>00:22 &lt;@nop&gt; for the preview
<p>00:22 -!- mids changed the topic of #iip-dev to: IIP meeting | logs: http://mids.student.utwente.nl/~mids/iip/ | sneak rc3 preview for unix http://mids.student.utwente.nl/~mids/iip/iip-1.1-rc3-mids1.tgz | please give feedback
<p>00:23 &lt;@nop&gt; ok
<p>00:23 &lt; zic&gt; compiling
<p>00:23 &lt;@nop&gt; so that's the rc3 unix preview
<p>00:23 &lt;@nop&gt; next on agenda
<p>00:23 &lt;@nop&gt; I think it's food and drinks
<p>00:23 &lt;@mids&gt; snacks and drinks
<p>00:23 &lt; zic&gt; i want pizza
<p>00:24 * mids gives a Quattro-Strationi to zic
<p>00:24 &lt; zic&gt; it's stinking :-/
<p>00:24 &lt; zic&gt; what did you put on that?
<p>00:24 &lt;@mids&gt; ok
<p>00:24 &lt;@mids&gt; questions?
<p>00:24 &lt; zic&gt; i have
<p>00:24 &lt; tc&gt; zic: dead fish
<p>00:24 &lt; zic&gt; tc ehhe
<p>00:25 &lt; tc&gt; does this just change the proxy?
<p>00:25 &lt; zic&gt; i propose a translation project...
<p>00:25 &lt;@nop&gt; also
<p>00:25 &lt;@nop&gt; we need a doc writer
<p>00:25 &lt;@nop&gt; for technical documentation
<p>00:25 &lt;@nop&gt; updates
<p>00:25 &lt;@mids&gt; volunteers?
<p>00:26 &lt; zic&gt; i would be, but my english is bad hehe
<p>00:26 &lt; zic&gt; i prefer translating things
<p>00:26 &lt;@nop&gt; translation: any volunteer
<p>00:26 * zic !
<p>00:26 &lt;@nop&gt; what languages?
<p>00:26 * zic -=&gt; portuguese only
<p>00:27 &lt;@nop&gt; ok
<p>00:27 &lt;@nop&gt; any other volunteers for specific languages
<p>00:27 &lt; Fairwitness&gt; English :)
<p>00:27 &lt; nemesis&gt; english and german ;)
<p>00:28 &lt;@nop&gt; English, is done, unfortunately it's the primary language
<p>00:28 &lt;@nop&gt; FW are you planning to assist with tech docs then
<p>00:28 &lt;@nop&gt; ?
<p>00:28 &lt; Fairwitness&gt; sure, if you want help. I like to write...
<p>00:28 &lt; zic&gt; i would like to help with something else, but i dont know what i need, and i am a mediocre coder
<p>00:28 &lt; zic&gt; s/i/you
<p>00:29 &lt; Fairwitness&gt; ...and I can't code for shit...
<p>00:29 &lt;@nop&gt; zic translation is great
<p>00:29 &lt; zic&gt; i can make debian packages
<p>00:29 &lt;@nop&gt; that's definitely a plus
<p>00:29 &lt; zic&gt; but this is not good for RC
<p>00:29 &lt;@nop&gt; correct
<p>00:29 &lt; zic&gt; but i can test it
<p>00:29 &lt;@nop&gt; but debian wants to include IIP as a package when stable
<p>00:30 &lt; zic&gt; is there anybody doing this?
<p>00:30 &lt;@mids&gt; I got to sleep now
<p>00:30 &lt;@mids&gt; ...
<p>00:30 &lt;@mids&gt; bye all
<p>00:30 &lt;@nop&gt; ok
<p>00:30 &lt;@hezekiah&gt; Bye!
<p>00:30 &lt; Fairwitness&gt; bye mids
<p>00:30 &lt; zic&gt; bye mids
<p>00:30 &lt;@nop&gt; ok so FW
<p>00:30 &lt;@nop&gt; can you assist with docs
<p>00:30 &lt; tc&gt; bye
<p>00:30 &lt; Neo&gt; nightz
<p>00:30 &lt; Fairwitness&gt; sure, what do you need done?
<p>00:30 &lt;@nop&gt; I have to upgrade the docs on encryption
<p>00:30 &lt;@nop&gt; and we're going to need docs for 1.2
<p>00:31 &lt;@nop&gt; soon
<p>00:31 &lt;@nop&gt; and full regular docs for 1.1 stable that have been reviewed
<p>00:31 &lt;@nop&gt; and are considered good for general audience
<p>00:31 &lt; Fairwitness&gt; define "general".
<p>00:31 &lt; nemesis&gt; ;)
<p>00:32 &lt;@nop&gt; well, when stable is released
<p>00:32 &lt;@nop&gt; we'd like a good docs to accompany
<p>00:32 &lt; nemesis&gt; that i understand this ;)
<p>00:32 &lt; Fairwitness&gt; general public or general crypto techno fetish geek
<p>00:32 &lt; Fairwitness&gt; :)
<p>00:32 &lt;@nop&gt; a little in between
<p>00:32 &lt; nemesis&gt; hrhr
<p>00:32 &lt; nemesis&gt; make some nice pictures
<p>00:32 &lt;@nop&gt; enough to be in the middle and answers questions for all users
<p>00:32 &lt; nemesis&gt; and say this is the securest irc network
<p>00:32 &lt; nemesis&gt; like m$
<p>00:32 &lt; nemesis&gt; this winxp is the stablest windows
<p>00:33 &lt; nemesis&gt; ;)
<p>00:33 &lt; zic&gt; "anoymousest"
<p>00:33 &lt;@nop&gt; haha
<p>00:33 &lt; Fairwitness&gt; Well if you give me the docs you have I can go through them and review and edit them for a general release.
<p>00:33 &lt; zic&gt; what about wiki documentation?
<p>00:33 &lt;@nop&gt; do you know how to make .chm file in windows
<p>00:34 &lt; Fairwitness&gt; In my RL I have got quite good an writing software docs that are understandable by "generl" folks as well as non english speakers.
<p>00:34 &lt; nemesis&gt; xml to chm?
<p>00:34 &lt; nemesis&gt; ;)
<p>00:34 &lt; nemesis&gt; or latex to chm
<p>00:34 &lt;@nop&gt; .chm is like the help doc in win32
<p>00:35 &lt;@nop&gt; we can discuss that later
<p>00:35 &lt;@nop&gt; ok
<p>00:35 &lt;@nop&gt; http://www.invisiblenet.net/iip/docsMain.php
<p>00:35 &lt; nemesis&gt; i know.. k later..
<p>00:36 &lt;@nop&gt; ok
<p>00:36 &lt;@nop&gt; any other questions?
<p>00:36 &lt; zic&gt; what is the future of mankind?
<p>00:37 &lt; Fairwitness&gt; are there any caffinated beverages here?
<p>00:37 &lt; Fairwitness&gt; if not, why not!
<p>00:37 &lt;@nop&gt; haha
<p>00:37 &lt; tc&gt; zic: wonderous .. if we can survive assholes
<p>00:37 &lt; Fairwitness&gt; I demand intra venus V as my price for editing docs !!
<p>00:37 &lt; Fairwitness&gt; :)
<p>00:38 &lt; Fairwitness&gt; Hi Neo
<p>00:38 &lt;@nop&gt; ok
<p>00:38 &lt;@nop&gt; meeting officially ended
<p>00:38 &lt; Fairwitness&gt; but, my V!!
<p>00:38 &lt; zic&gt; hahaha
<p>00:39 * Fairwitness slumps in the chair.
<p>00:40 -!- mode/#iip-dev [+o Chocolate] by Trent
<p>00:40 -!- mode/#iip-dev [+n] by Chocolate
<p>00:40 &lt;@Chocolate&gt; damn I alwasy miss them :(
<p>00:40 &lt; nemesis&gt; hrhr
<p>00:40 &lt; nemesis&gt; Chocolate: ;)
<p>00:44 &lt; zic&gt; nictuku:/home/yves/freenet# [2002/11/19-23:41:02]:Socket(5), Error (98):Failed to bind listening socket.
<p>00:44 &lt; zic&gt; [2002/11/19-23:41:02]:sockListen: bind failed: host(127.0.0.1), port(6667)Failed to bind listening socket.
<p>00:45 &lt; zic&gt; it should say it exited
<p>00:45 &lt;@hezekiah&gt; If you do a "ps -e | grep isproxy" you shouldn't see it on the list.
<p>00:45 &lt; zic&gt; i know
<p>00:45 &lt;@hezekiah&gt; However, that is a good idea.
<p>00:45 &lt; zic&gt; but it should printf that
<p>00:47 &lt; sanity&gt; are you talking about how to kill isproxy?
<p>00:47 &lt;@hezekiah&gt; No. What isproxy should do when it doesn't load.
<p>00:52 &lt; zic&gt; is iip already meant to be popular?
<p>00:52 &lt; nemesis&gt; i don't know
<p>00:52 &lt; nemesis&gt; it's like
<p>00:53 &lt; nemesis&gt; cryptomail
<p>00:53 &lt; zic&gt; i bet it isnt in freshmeat and tucows, for example.. is it? it could
<p>00:53 &lt; nemesis&gt; when there are no way to share files with more than under 1kbyte/sec then i don't have a good look at the future
<p>00:54 &lt; zic&gt; but iip is not about sharing files..
<p>00:55 &lt; nemesis&gt; thats true
<p>00:55 &lt; nemesis&gt; but what can i do with an chating plattform
<p>00:55 &lt; nemesis&gt; when i can't send the other people the newest own mp3 mix?
<p>00:56 &lt; zic&gt; chat!
<p>00:56 &lt; nemesis&gt; theres to many options what you can do with files
<p>00:56 &lt; nemesis&gt; when it's only a chatlog
<p>00:56 &lt; zic&gt; i bet in OPN ppl dont care about sending things
<p>00:56 &lt;@Chocolate&gt; zic: iip is on freshmeat I beleave
<p>00:56 &lt; nemesis&gt; what you will send the other one
<p>00:56 &lt; nemesis&gt; or a new perlscript for xchat
<p>00:56 &lt; nemesis&gt; and so on
<p>00:57 &lt; nemesis&gt; desktop pics
<p>00:57 &lt;@Chocolate&gt; nemesis: use fileserv.pl, it's under the GPL so you can make any modifications you want
<p>00:57 &lt; zic&gt; i think he knows that chocolate
<p>00:57 &lt; nemesis&gt; erm
<p>00:57 &lt;@Chocolate&gt; zic: well I forgot to include the licence header in the file so :)
<p>00:57 &lt; nemesis&gt; test it on windows with xchat and active perl please
<p>00:58 &lt; nemesis&gt; and say me how i can use it
<p>00:58 &lt; nemesis&gt; or make a faq
<p>00:58 &lt; zic&gt; Chocolate: oh yes, you made it. thank you, btw
<p>00:58 &lt; nemesis&gt; ;)
<p>00:59 &lt; zic&gt; Chocolate: is it possible to make a perl-version compatible MIRC script ?
<p>00:59 &lt; nemesis&gt; ;)
<p>01:00 &lt; nemesis&gt; where need a shareware?
<p>01:00 &lt; nemesis&gt; xchat under win is more stable and open than mirc
<p>01:00 &lt; nemesis&gt; i only miss the drag and drop option bye filesend
<p>01:00 &lt; zic&gt; but mirc is far more popular
<p>01:00 &lt; nemesis&gt; and?
<p>01:01 &lt; zic&gt; and many IIP users use mirc
<p>01:01 &lt; nemesis&gt; i had mirc 6.00 for 1 to 2 month
<p>01:01 &lt; nemesis&gt; it crashes always after some hours
<p>01:01 &lt; zic&gt; i used mirc all my life
<p>01:01 &lt; zic&gt; i like mirc a lot
<p>01:01 &lt; nemesis&gt; and it takes 3 month or so for the next version
<p>01:01 &lt; nemesis&gt; then
<p>01:01 &lt; nemesis&gt; the multiserv
<p>01:01 &lt; nemesis&gt; in the performlist
<p>01:01 &lt; nemesis&gt; it deleted and reorganized the list
<p>01:02 &lt; nemesis&gt; in xchat i can use the (very slow) transparent windowbackground
<p>01:02 &lt; nemesis&gt; have good ssl support for other irc networks that support this
<p>01:02 &lt; zic&gt; nemesis: ok, but ppl use it, so fileserver.pl must have a compatible clone for mirc...
<p>01:03 &lt; nemesis&gt; for every server a own perform list and so on
<p>01:03 &lt; nemesis&gt; mirc
<p>01:03 &lt; nemesis&gt; thats an programing language the mirc script?
<p>01:04 &lt; zic&gt; hmm it's mirc's own scripting language
<p>01:04 &lt; zic&gt; which is btw very known, my first interpreted language was mirc's
<p>01:05 &lt; nemesis&gt; lol
<p>01:05 &lt; nemesis&gt; *sorry*
<p>01:05 &lt; nemesis&gt; make a good if then constallation
<p>01:05 &lt; nemesis&gt; i stopped it
<p>01:06 &lt; nemesis&gt; cause i can't finde the way to make it possible in mirc
<p>01:06 &lt; zic&gt; why not?
<p>01:07 &lt; zic&gt; well, nevermind
<p>01:07 &lt; nemesis&gt; it's to hard to explain it in english sorry guy
<p>01:08 &lt; zic&gt; ok, dont worry, sorry for pushing
<p>01:08 &lt; zic&gt; what i meant is just that fileserver.pl needs compatibility.. hehe
<p>01:08 &lt; nemesis&gt; kk
<p>01:09 &lt; nemesis&gt; find a way in your mirc scripting language ;)
<p>01:09 &lt; zic&gt; :-/
<p>01:09 &lt; zic&gt; i dont even use windows anymore
<p>01:09 &lt; nemesis&gt; i only liked the easy way to make windows with mirc
<p>01:29 &lt; sanity&gt; .
<p>01:29 &lt; zic&gt; '
<p>01:31 &lt; zic&gt; going to opn, see you
<p>02:44 &lt; dd0c&gt; is this rc3 preview useable?
<p>02:44 &lt; dd0c&gt; heh dumb question
<p>--- Log closed Wed Nov 20 10:43:44 2002
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