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<h3>I2P (invisiblenet) Development Meeting 22</h3>
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<p>--- Log opened Tue Dec 03 23:52:14 2002
<p>23:52 -!- Topic for #iip-dev: IIP meeting | logs: http://mids.student.utwente.nl/~mids/iip/ | sneak rc3 preview for unix http://mids.student.utwente.nl/~mids/iip/iip-1.1-rc3-mids1.tgz | please give feedback
<p>23:52 [Users #iip-dev]
<p>23:52 [ codeshark2] [ Disposable] [ logger] [ nemesis] [ nop] [ root_]
<p>23:52 [ Debolaz ] [ icepick ] [ mids ] [ Neo ] [ pox] [ UserX]
<p>23:52 -!- Irssi: #iip-dev: Total of 12 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal]
<p>23:52 -!- Irssi: Join to #iip-dev was synced in 3 secs
<p>--- Day changed Wed Dec 04 2002
<p>00:01 &lt; mids&gt; Tue Dec 3 23:01:00 UTC 2002
<p>00:01 &lt; mids&gt; Welcome everybody
<p>00:02 &lt; mids&gt; today we are going to talk about nice websites
<p>00:02 &lt; mids&gt; atleast, until nop comes back in 8 minutes
<p>00:02 &lt; mids&gt; now here comes my nice website:
<p>00:02 &lt; hezekiah&gt; lol
<p>00:02 &lt; mids&gt; http://www.longbets.org/
<p>00:02 &lt; mids&gt; "The purpose of the Long Bet Foundation is to improve long-term thinking"
<p>00:03 &lt; mids&gt; consult the website for more information
<p>00:03 &lt; mids&gt; .
<p>00:03 &lt; hezekiah&gt; mids ... you need to take a course at an MC camp about "filling dead air."
<p>00:03 &lt; hezekiah&gt; How's RC3? Do you know?
<p>00:03 &lt; mids&gt; 1) you take a bottle of air
<p>00:03 &lt; mids&gt; 2) you fill it with water
<p>00:03 &lt; mids&gt; 3) the dead air is filled.
<p>00:03 &lt; mids&gt; .
<p>00:03 &lt; hezekiah&gt; Any feedback on the "pre" RC3?
<p>00:04 &lt; mids&gt; someone asked how the upgrade could be done
<p>00:04 &lt; mids&gt; otherwise no comments that I can remember
<p>00:05 &lt; mids&gt; codeshark made some commits for the windows version of rc3 to CVS
<p>00:05 &lt; mids&gt; like said last weeks: rc3 is near
<p>00:05 &lt; mids&gt; only we lack developertime to release it :)
<p>00:06 &lt; hezekiah&gt; The configure script should now support Linux, FreeBSD, and Mac OS X. If you want to try it, check out the "development" branch of CVS and give it a whirl!
<p>00:06 &lt; mids&gt; I tried it
<p>00:06 &lt; mids&gt; but I got all kind of errors
<p>00:06 &lt; hezekiah&gt; When did you try it?
<p>00:06 &lt; mids&gt; 3 days ago
<p>00:06 &lt; hezekiah&gt; Hmmm ... what operating system?
<p>00:06 &lt; mids&gt; linux
<p>00:07 &lt; hezekiah&gt; Odd. Send me the errors.
<p>00:07 &lt; hezekiah&gt; I'll look into it.
<p>00:08 &lt; mids&gt; ./configure works fine... but takes quite long actually
<p>00:08 &lt; mids&gt; compared with other opensource projects
<p>00:08 &lt; hezekiah&gt; Hmm ... it should take only a minute or so.
<p>00:08 &lt; mids&gt; yeah
<p>00:08 &lt; mids&gt; but longer as other projects with the same size
<p>00:09 &lt; hezekiah&gt; Do they have to do crypto?
<p>00:09 &lt; hezekiah&gt; That can make a big difference. (A fair section of the time is spent finding OpenSSL, and finding integer types and making macros for them.)
<p>00:09 &lt; mids&gt; hm nope
<p>00:09 &lt; mids&gt; it compiles now
<p>00:09 &lt; hezekiah&gt; Good! :)
<p>00:09 &lt; mids&gt; but it refuses to bind to port 6667
<p>00:10 &lt; mids&gt; is the configuration file format changed?
<p>00:10 &lt; hezekiah&gt; It should.
<p>00:10 &lt; mids&gt; oh wait
<p>00:10 &lt; hezekiah&gt; You already have isproxy running on port 6667 since your talking to me. (Unless you customized the isproxy you ran before.)
<p>00:10 &lt; mids&gt; it is this NASTY timeout
<p>00:10 &lt; mids&gt; that should really be fixed...
<p>00:11 &lt; mids&gt; it works
<p>00:11 &lt; hezekiah&gt; The timeout that occures when a copy of isproxy bombs out with the port still bound?
<p>00:11 &lt; mids&gt; hip hip
<p>00:11 &lt; hezekiah&gt; hurra!
<p>00:11 &lt; mids&gt; yeah that timeout
<p>00:11 &lt; hezekiah&gt; Ugh. You're right.
<p>00:11 &lt; mids&gt; .
<p>00:11 &lt; mids&gt; Other question that I got through some user:
<p>00:12 &lt; hezekiah&gt; Well, that's the current state in developerland from my view folks! More at 11:00!
<p>00:12 &lt; hezekiah&gt; What?
<p>00:12 &lt; mids&gt; why does the entropy generation feed directly from the keypresses?
<p>00:12 &lt; mids&gt; and not from /dev/random like GnuPG etc do?
<p>00:12 &lt; hezekiah&gt; I don't know. UserX?
<p>00:12 &lt; mids&gt; /dev/random uses mouse, network and other randomness too
<p>00:13 &lt; hezekiah&gt; (Well, /dev/random doesn't use network if you say not to in the kernel; ... which I do.)
<p>00:13 &lt; mids&gt; depens on the os I think
<p>00:14 &lt; mids&gt; .
<p>00:14 &lt; UserX&gt; reason for that is not all /dev/randoms produce secure random data
<p>00:15 &lt; hezekiah&gt; Ah ...
<p>00:15 &lt; mids&gt; UserX: then how does GnuPG handle it? I am sure they do it right :)
<p>00:15 &lt; hezekiah&gt; Maybe we should make it check to see if the system does ... and use it if so.
<p>00:16 &lt; UserX&gt; mids: i'm not sure. i'll look into that
<p>00:16 &lt; hezekiah&gt; If it's in their configure script, then I might be able to find it.
<p>00:16 &lt; mids&gt; great
<p>00:16 &lt; mids&gt; I _really_ need to sleep now
<p>00:17 &lt; hezekiah&gt; Bye, mids! :
<p>00:17 &lt; hezekiah&gt; :)
<p>00:17 &lt; mids&gt; night
<p>00:17 &lt; hezekiah&gt; 'night.
<p>00:17 &lt; mids&gt; (logfiles on http://mids.student.utwente.nl/~mids/iip/)
<p>00:18 &lt; hezekiah&gt; (Meanwhile, our reports are still investigating the mysterious dissapearence of "nop"! We'll give you the breaking news "as it happens (r)!")
<p>00:18 &lt; hezekiah&gt; [If no one has noticed yet, I'll be the first to admit: I don't do well at filling dead air.]
<p>00:19 &lt; hezekiah&gt; I would like to officially thank the person who submitted a logo to the iip-dev mailing list.
<p>00:19 &lt; hezekiah&gt; It's the best one I've seen yet. (Note: It's also the only one I've seen yet ...)
<p>00:20 &lt; hezekiah&gt; Well, while we wait for nop ...
<p>00:20 &lt; hezekiah&gt; ... Does anyone have question!?
<p>00:21 &lt; hezekiah&gt; Anyone?
<p>00:21 &lt; hezekiah&gt; Anyone at all?
<p>00:21 &lt; pox&gt; bpb was writing a license. did it materialize?
<p>00:22 &lt; hezekiah&gt; I wasn't aware of any license in the works. Currently, I beleive is IIP licensed under the GPL.
<p>00:23 &lt; hezekiah&gt; Yup. IIP is licensed under the GPL
<p>00:23 &lt; nop&gt; hi
<p>00:23 &lt; nop&gt; ok
<p>00:23 &lt; nop&gt; sorry
<p>00:23 &lt; hezekiah&gt; The man is HERE!
<p>00:24 &lt; nop&gt; alright
<p>00:24 &lt; nop&gt; rc3 should be coming out today
<p>00:24 &lt; nop&gt; it's getting tested as we speak
<p>00:24 &lt; hezekiah&gt; Yay!
<p>00:25 &lt; nop&gt; other than that
<p>00:25 &lt; nop&gt; I don't think there's much to say this week
<p>00:25 &lt; nop&gt; rather slow week
<p>00:25 &lt; nop&gt; busy for most people
<p>00:25 &lt; nop&gt; side note
<p>00:25 &lt; nop&gt; life is good
<p>00:25 &lt; nop&gt; :)
<p>00:25 &lt; nop&gt; any questions
<p>00:25 &lt; nop&gt; comments
<p>00:26 &lt; nop&gt; .
<p>00:26 &lt; hezekiah&gt; When can we expect IIP 1.1 final to be out?
<p>00:27 &lt; nop&gt; hezekiah you tell me ;)
<p>00:27 &lt; nop&gt; j/k
<p>00:27 &lt; nop&gt; probably a few weeks after rc3 is released today
<p>00:27 &lt; hezekiah&gt; I'm working on 1.2 development!
<p>00:27 &lt; nop&gt; haha
<p>00:27 &lt; hezekiah&gt; OK. :)
<p>00:27 &lt; nop&gt; I know
<p>00:27 &lt; nop&gt; I'm kidding
<p>00:27 &lt; hezekiah&gt; You would!
<p>00:27 &lt; hezekiah&gt; lo
<p>00:27 &lt; nop&gt; pending bugs etc
<p>00:27 &lt; hezekiah&gt; lol
<p>00:30 &lt; hezekiah&gt; Does any else have a question?
<p>00:30 &lt; nemesis&gt; hm...
<p>00:31 &lt; nemesis&gt; plan codeshark a tut for fileserv?
<p>00:40 &lt; hezekiah&gt; Well ... I'm off. Have fun everyone. ;-)
<p>03:09 &lt; nemesis&gt; http://forum.pcwelt.de/fastCGI/pcwforum/topic_show.fpl?tid=82168&pg=5 loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
<p>03:10 &lt; nemesis&gt; ups, sorry, an url ;)
<p>03:10 &lt; nemesis&gt; *gg*
<p>04:07 &lt; nemesis&gt; cu@all
<p>04:11 * Disposable is listening to System of a Down - Spiders
<p>13:17 -!- Topic for #iip-dev: IIP meeting | logs: http://mids.student.utwente.nl/~mids/iip/ | sneak rc3 preview for unix http://mids.student.utwente.nl/~mids/iip/iip-1.1-rc3-mids1.tgz | please give feedback
<p>13:17 [Users #iip-dev]
<p>13:17 [ Debolaz ] [ icepick] [ pox ] [ UserX]
<p>13:17 [ Disposable] [ logger ] [ root__]
<p>13:17 -!- Irssi: #iip-dev: Total of 7 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 7 normal]
<p>13:17 -!- Irssi: Join to #iip-dev was synced in 8 secs
<p>--- Log closed Wed Dec 04 19:49:58 2002
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