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<p>16:16 &lt; jrandom&gt; 0) hi</p>
<p>16:16 &lt; jrandom&gt; 1) 0.6.1.1</p>
<p>16:16 &lt; jrandom&gt; 2) i2phex</p>
<p>16:16 &lt;@protokol&gt; speaking of, whats the news on legion and i2phex</p>
<p>16:16 &lt; jrandom&gt; 3) syndie</p>
<p>16:16 &lt; jrandom&gt; 4) ???</p>
<p>16:16 &lt; jrandom&gt; 0) hi</p>
<p>16:16 * jrandom waves</p>
<p>16:16 &lt; jrandom&gt; weekly status notes posted up to http://dev.i2p.net/pipermail/i2p/2005-October/000939.html</p>
<p>16:17 &lt;+postman&gt; hi</p>
<p>16:17 &lt; jrandom&gt; might as well jump into 1) 0.6.1.1</p>
<p>16:18 &lt;+postman&gt; ya</p>
<p>16:18 &lt; jrandom&gt; the network has been growing in number and in usage, but things have been doing pretty well</p>
<p>16:18 &lt;+postman&gt; .. apart from the irc servers</p>
<p>16:18 &lt; jrandom&gt; aye, thats an interesting one</p>
<p>16:19 &lt; jrandom&gt; (the irc servers are currently running an older rev, and we're still working on some debugging to understand exactly why things are the way they are)</p>
<p>16:19 &lt;+Ragnarok&gt; what happened?</p>
<p>16:20 &lt; jrandom&gt; hopefully we'll get the irc servers upgraded sooner rather than later, as there has been some good stuff lately</p>
<p>16:20 &lt; cervantes&gt; Ragnarok: server&lt;-&gt;server link is shakey under 1.1</p>
<p>16:20 &lt;+Ragnarok&gt; weird</p>
<p>16:20 &lt; jrandom&gt; 0.6.1.1, that is ;)</p>
<p>16:20 &lt;+Complication&gt; protokol: see forum, he finally opted for a sensible approach</p>
<p>16:20 &lt;+postman&gt; cervantes: don't mention the time travel, idiot</p>
<p>16:20 &lt; cervantes&gt; 0.6.1.x</p>
<p>16:20 &lt;+postman&gt; :)</p>
<p>16:21 &lt; cervantes&gt; oop</p>
<p>16:21 &lt;+postman&gt; jrandom: i hope i'll be able to build a test ircd this week</p>
<p>16:21 &lt;+postman&gt; jrandom: we could link to an instance run by you or cervantes </p>
<p>16:22 &lt; jrandom&gt; aye, that'd be great. we could even split off the different tunnels into different jvms, using different streaming libs and router versions, to isolate the issue further</p>
<p>16:23 &lt; jrandom&gt; it'd be cool if we could do that before 0.6.1.2, but if not, no big deal</p>
<p>16:24 &lt; jrandom&gt; ok, anyone else have anything for 1) 0.6.1.1?</p>
<p>16:24 &lt;+postman&gt; jrandom: apart from that: runs like hell</p>
<p>16:24 &lt; jrandom&gt; would that be a good hell or a bad hell? :)</p>
<p>16:24 &lt;+postman&gt; a hell of a hell :)</p>
<p>16:25 &lt;+Complication&gt; Eh, managed to cause a few more errors (but those were really, really borderline stuff, router restart under a running i2phex.) Will send privately.</p>
<p>16:26 &lt; jrandom&gt; ah cool, thanks Complication </p>
<p>16:26 &lt;+Complication&gt; (e.g. they probably won't hurt anyone in real life)</p>
<p>16:26 &lt; jrandom&gt; heh never underestimate people's ability to break things :)</p>
<p>16:27 &lt; cervantes&gt; or the ingenuity of fools in testing fool proof systems</p>
<p>16:27 &lt;+postman&gt; yea, make something fool proof and you'll be rewarded with a new kind of fool</p>
<p>16:28 &lt; jrandom&gt; hallelujah</p>
<p>16:29 &lt; jrandom&gt; ok, anything else for 1), or shall we move on to 2) i2phex</p>
<p>16:30 &lt; jrandom&gt; there has been a lot of discussion as of late, and legion has agreed to merge back the changes made into sirup's i2phex codebase. </p>
<p>16:30 &lt;+postman&gt; move</p>
<p>16:30 &lt; jrandom&gt; this is quite cool, as it'll be great for us all to benefit from legion's hard work while remaining entirely open and secure</p>
<p>16:31 &lt;+Ragnarok&gt; what did he actually do?</p>
<p>16:33 &lt; jrandom&gt; latest changes include the addition of systray4j, striker's timeout updates, increased tunnel length defaults, some nsis and jni stuff, and a few other changes</p>
<p>16:33 &lt;+Ragnarok&gt; hm, ok</p>
<p>16:33 &lt;+postman&gt; jrandom: so there're a bunch of improvements - those will be kept tho?</p>
<p>16:34 &lt; jrandom&gt; certainly, all good stuff will be integrated into i2phex</p>
<p>16:34 &lt; jrandom&gt; there are a few things i'm not so sure of, but that'll be discussed with legion outside of the meeting ;)</p>
<p>16:35 &lt;+postman&gt; k</p>
<p>16:36 &lt; jrandom&gt; ok, anyone else have anything for 2) i2phex? or shall we move on to 3) syndie?</p>
<p>16:37 * postman prepares his syndie500 franchising goods</p>
<p>16:37 &lt; jrandom&gt; heh</p>
<p>16:37 &lt; jrandom&gt; ok, Ragnarok, wanna give us the rundown on the latest?</p>
<p>16:37 &lt;+Ragnarok&gt; hm, ok</p>
<p>16:38 &lt;+Ragnarok&gt; Syndie will now get new posts from an archive automatically. </p>
<p>16:38 &lt;+Ragnarok&gt; you can set which archives you want to get updates from, and set how often you do it in the syndie config file</p>
<p>16:39 &lt;+Ragnarok&gt; more details about that are in history.txt</p>
<p>16:39 &lt;+Ragnarok&gt; it needs a ui, but otherwise it's essentially done</p>
<p>16:39 &lt;+Ragnarok&gt; 'course, no one seems to be posting anything recently, so maybe it's not that useful :)</p>
<p>16:40 &lt; jrandom&gt; [insert field of dreams quote here]</p>
<p>16:40 &lt; jrandom&gt; thanks Ragnarok, this has been an oft requested feature</p>
<p>16:41 &lt;+Ragnarok&gt; cool</p>
<p>16:41 &lt;+Ragnarok&gt; happy to do it, wasn't really that much work</p>
<p>16:42 &lt;+Ragnarok&gt; mostly just scratching my own itch :)</p>
<p>16:42 &lt; cervantes&gt; oh wasn't it? or forget it then :P</p>
<p>16:42 &lt; cervantes&gt; or=oh</p>
<p>16:42 &lt;+postman&gt; (hush, the genius must not admit that it needs to work hard too)</p>
<p>16:42 &lt;+Ragnarok&gt; hehe</p>
<p>16:43 &lt;+Ragnarok&gt; anyway, if anyone's got bug reports/feature requests/boos/cheers/etc. let me know</p>
<p>16:43 &lt; jrandom&gt; (cheers!)</p>
<p>16:43 &lt;+Ragnarok&gt; next thing I'm thinking of is auto matically importing petnames seen in posts into the routers petname db, but that looks like it could be complicated...</p>
<p>16:44 &lt;+Ragnarok&gt; but, it would essentially allow syndie to replace addressbook</p>
<p>16:44 &lt; jrandom&gt; that would be Very Cool</p>
<p>16:44 &lt;+nickless_head&gt; yeah :)</p>
<p>16:45 &lt;+Ragnarok&gt; I just have to figure out how to get a list of petnames out of the archive</p>
<p>16:45 &lt;+Ragnarok&gt; everything else is trivial</p>
<p>16:45 &lt;+nickless_head&gt; ragnarok: are your changes already in cvs? (too lazy to read the whole discussion) :)</p>
<p>16:45 &lt;+Ragnarok&gt; yeah</p>
<p>16:45 &lt;+nickless_head&gt; :happy:</p>
<p>16:45 * nickless_head considers cvs update</p>
<p>16:45 &lt;+Ragnarok&gt; have been since yesterday</p>
<p>16:45 &lt;+nickless_head&gt; nah, probably better to wait for the next release</p>
<p>16:45 &lt; jrandom&gt; perhaps get the petnames whenever they're rendered, exposed via the HTMLRenderer (in the addressReceived)</p>
<p>16:46 &lt;+Ragnarok&gt; ok, I'll look into that</p>
<p>16:46 &lt; jrandom&gt; cool, thanks Ragnarok </p>
<p>16:47 &lt;+Ragnarok&gt; well, that's it from me, unless there's questions</p>
<p>16:49 &lt; jrandom&gt; wr0d. ok, jumping on to 4) ??? </p>
<p>16:49 &lt; jrandom&gt; anyone have anything else to bring up for the meeting?</p>
<p>16:49 &lt; cervantes&gt; aye</p>
<p>16:49 * nickless_head looks at cervantes interestedly</p>
<p>16:50 &lt;+fox&gt; &lt;mancom&gt; is there anything new on Q or feedspace?</p>
<p>16:50 &lt;+postman&gt; nickless_head: hey, he's mine - don't dare to stare at him like that :)</p>
<p>16:50 &lt;+nickless_head&gt; I'm not staring at him .. I'm looking at him interestedly.</p>
<p>16:51 &lt; cervantes&gt; After some deliberation I've revived the "Forum User of the Month" spot - and this month it deservedly has gone to Complication for outstanding forum contributions</p>
<p>16:51 &lt;+nickless_head&gt; congratulations complication!</p>
<p>16:51 &lt;+postman&gt; kudos :)</p>
<p>16:51 &lt; cervantes&gt; so he gets an avatar (whether he likes it or not) :P</p>
<p>16:51 &lt;+Complication&gt; Heh, I hope my blunders have been less outstanding. :O :D</p>
<p>16:52 &lt;@protokol&gt; oh yeah</p>
<p>16:52 &lt; jrandom&gt; w00t! thanks Complication </p>
<p>16:52 &lt; cervantes&gt; (which is active now)</p>
<p>16:52 &lt;@protokol&gt; hows that Yellow Submarine i2phex test going</p>
<p>16:52 &lt;@protokol&gt; any notable speeds or lack thereof?</p>
<p>16:52 &lt;+Complication&gt; It's going.</p>
<p>16:52 &lt; jrandom&gt; mancom: nothing new regarding Q or feedspace</p>
<p>16:53 &lt;+Complication&gt; No hyperfast speeds, but a guaranteed good-enough speed, I'd say.</p>
<p>16:53 &lt; jrandom&gt; protokol: last i heard was 10-20KBps, but thats just stuff on the forum</p>
<p>16:53 &lt;@protokol&gt; im downloading it right now</p>
<p>16:53 * nickless_head understands what postman implied</p>
<p>16:53 * nickless_head blushes</p>
<p>16:53 &lt;+Complication&gt; (also: I re-read part of the tech intro, and couldn't find flaw with the network comparisons. I think they're good enough.)</p>
<p>16:54 &lt;+postman&gt; nickless_head: LOL (sorry)</p>
<p>16:54 * Complication looks at the avatar and grins :D</p>
<p>16:54 &lt;+nickless_head&gt; postman: *GG* (no problem)</p>
<p>16:54 &lt; cat-a-puss&gt; Has anything been done in an effort to get "Amazon honor system" as an alternate method of collecting donations?</p>
<p>16:54 &lt;+Complication&gt; Spot on. :P</p>
<p>16:55 &lt;@protokol&gt; cat-a-puss: what do you mean?</p>
<p>16:55 &lt; jrandom&gt; not yet cat-a-puss, haven't seen wilde around</p>
<p>16:55 &lt; jrandom&gt; woah, hey phedy</p>
<p>16:55 &lt; phedy&gt; Hi jrandom.</p>
<p>16:55 &lt; cat-a-puss&gt; protokol: it's like pay-pal, except you can use an account you have with amazon.com to make payment</p>
<p>16:56 &lt; jrandom&gt; Complication: thanks re: the comparisons. there are a few cleanups left, but its coming along</p>
<p>16:56 &lt;@protokol&gt; weak</p>
<p>16:56 &lt;+Complication&gt; (not that I know Tor or Freenet in decent degree, although I've used both)</p>
<p>16:57 * cat-a-puss is thinking of creating a bounty for helping finish the distributed search engine. </p>
<p>16:57 &lt; jrandom&gt; (before putting the doc out on the normal website i'll run it by those folks for comment)</p>
<p>16:58 &lt; cervantes&gt; Complication: it's an art installation on a roundabout in London that causes havoc with the traffic ;-)</p>
<p>16:59 &lt; jrandom&gt; cat-a-puss: i've got to work out some other financial stuff soon anyway, so shall let you know asap</p>
<p>16:59 &lt; jrandom&gt; ok, anyone else have anything to bring up for the meeting?</p>
<p>16:59 &lt; cat-a-puss&gt; oh if we want documents translated to some other languages before 1.0, I may know people who could help with Spanish and Chinese.</p>
<p>16:59 &lt; cat-a-puss&gt; ok</p>
<p>16:59 &lt; jrandom&gt; kickass, that'd be great</p>
<p>17:00 &lt;+Complication&gt; cervantes: thanks for telling, I wasn't aware where such an, umm... effect occurred :D</p>
<p>17:00 &lt; jrandom&gt; there's a draft tech intro floating around in cvs, and we'll eventually want whatever our website redesign turns out to contain to be translated</p>
<p>17:03 * nickless_head goes to sleep</p>
<p>17:03 &lt; jrandom&gt; i suppose i should grab the baffer...</p>
<p>17:03 &lt; jrandom&gt; if there's nothing else</p>
<p>17:03 * jrandom winds up </p>
<p>17:03 * jrandom *baf*s the meeting closed</p>
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