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{% block title %}I2P Development Meeting 25{% endblock %}
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<h3>I2P (invisiblenet) Development Meeting 25</h3>
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Courtesy of <a href="http://www.archive.org/">the wayback machine</a>.
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<p>
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<p>--- Topic for #iip-dev is IIP Meeting - logfiles:
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<p>http://mids.student.utwente.nl/~mids/iip/
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<p><nemesis> nop, no meeting today?
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<p><nop> yes
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<p><nop> sorry
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<p><nop> ok
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<p><nop> welcome
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<p><nemesis> hi nop ;)
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<p><nop> hi
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<p><nop> agenda
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<p><nop> 1) welcome
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<p><nemesis> whats going on? everybody sleeps?
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<p><nop> 2) Happy New Year
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<p><nop> 3) Happy Holidays
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<p><chscrtr> hi, happy new year
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<p><nop> 4) IIP
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<p><nemesis> hehe, happy new year too
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<p><mrflibble> happy new year! :)
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<p><nop> 5) IIP logo contest
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<p><nop> 6) CryptoCon
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<p><nop> 4) IIP
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<p><nop> ok IIP
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<p><nop> it's kind of stagnant because of the holidays
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<p><nop> but I believe we're picking it back up
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<p><nop> any bug reports please send to iip@invisiblenet.net
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<p><nop> ok
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<p><nop> 5) IIP logo contest
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<p><nop> we'll being putting up something on our site about the rules etc
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<p><nop> and display the drawings we have so far
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<p><nop> please help out if you can
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<p><nop> get a free t-shirt and your logo on it
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<p><nop> 6) CryptoCon
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<p><mrflibble> cool
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<p><nop> we're trying to get a program committee and some organizational
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<p>planning for Jan 2004 to have cryptocon happen
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<p><nop> join #cryptocon for any assistance etc
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<p><nop> anyway, that's about it
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<p><nop> questions?
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<p><nop> questions?
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<p><nop> ;)
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<p><mrflibble> nope
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<p><nop> ok
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<p><nop> meeting ajourned
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<p><Neo> nope
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<p><Neo> thanks. :)
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<p><mrflibble> np
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<p><mrflibble> oo, 1 thing
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<p><mrflibble> about cryptocon
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<p><mrflibble> is there a particular reason for organising your/your own?
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<p><mrflibble> there are general crypto confs out there that cyou could submit
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<p>stuff 2
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<p><nop> well
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<p><nop> we want to attract businesses to meet cipherpunks
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<p><nop> and push cryptography more than it is
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<p><nop> this will be different
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<p><mids> fsck
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<p><mrflibble> gotcha
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<p><nop> missed it
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<p><nop> ;)
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<p><mids> sorry folks :)
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<p><mrflibble> it will just be a lot of work 4 u all
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<p><mids> is there still a point in bringing the logger here?
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<p><mrflibble> lol
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<p><nemesis> hehe
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<p><nop> well mrflibble I don't think it will be
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<p>--- Log opened Wed Jan 08 00:14:47 2003
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<p>00:14 -!- Topic for #iip-dev: IIP Meeting - logfiles: http://mids.student.utwente.nl/~mids/iip/
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<p>00:14 [Users #iip-dev]
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<p>00:14 [ chscrtr] [ logger] [ mrflibble] [ Neo] [ Nostradumbass] [ w ]
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<p>00:14 [ co ] [ mids ] [ nemesis ] [ nop] [ UserX ] [ wilde]
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<p>00:14 -!- Irssi: #iip-dev: Total of 12 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal]
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<p>00:15 < nop> we have a year to plan
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<p>00:15 < mrflibble> true
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<p>00:15 -!- Irssi: Join to #iip-dev was synced in 43 secs
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<p>00:16 < nop> plus we need to raise money
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<p>00:16 < nop> and this might help
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<p>00:16 < nop> since no one likes to donate
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<p>00:16 < nop> ;)
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<p>00:16 < chscrtr> error - less than a year
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<p>00:16 < nemesis> hm... nop, you are using knoppix right now, or?
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<p>00:17 < mrflibble> ic
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<p>00:17 < nop> suse right now
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<p>00:17 < mrflibble> u might need to advertise a lot to get the sponsers
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<p>00:17 < mrflibble> which will cost
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<p>00:18 < nemesis> are you think that iip is important/stable enough to show it the world?
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<p>00:18 < chscrtr> not that much, PR can be cheap
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<p>00:18 < nop> nemesis I don't think I'm showing it to the world
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<p>00:19 < mrflibble> hmm, i hope so
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<p>00:19 < nop> It's a conference, separate concept
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<p>00:19 < mids> ok, lizzy__ raised the point that the idleing time might give away too much information
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<p>00:19 < nemesis> hehe
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<p>00:19 < nop> yes it does
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<p>00:19 < mids> so (s)he suggested to disable it server side
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<p>00:19 < nop> we can take that out
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<p>00:19 < nop> I've been wanting to do that
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<p>00:19 < nop> ok
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<p>00:19 < nemesis> cause, it would be nice when future releases are packed for trustix ;)
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<p>00:19 < nop> will work on it
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<p>00:19 < mids> also that registering your nickname pinpoints you and makes you more traceble
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<p>00:19 < mids> so there should be a warning against that
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<p>00:19 < mids> .
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<p>00:20 < mids> I suggest that we metion the possible risks and issues more clear in the documentation
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<p>00:20 < mids> mention
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<p>00:20 < mrflibble> why is registering mae u more traceable?
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<p>00:20 < mrflibble> make
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<p>00:20 < mids> mrflibble: because once you identify, then you are guaranteed the same person as before
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<p>00:21 < mids> while if you just use the same nick, you might not be the same person
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<p>00:21 < mids> registering and identifying makes you pseudonymous
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<p>00:21 < mids> instead of anonymous
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<p>00:21 < mrflibble> oh
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<p>00:21 < mrflibble> but that's good tho
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<p>00:21 < mrflibble> trust is important
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<p>00:24 < mids> yes, but you build a public record of information
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<p>00:24 < mids> each time that you connect and say something, you add more info
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<p>00:24 < mids> there are tools which can identify the identity of people based on language patterns.
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<p>00:25 < mids> the ones that I tried are not that good, but it is often quite easy to spot errors and make conclusions.
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<p>00:25 < mids> I believe that it wouldn't harm to add a chapter about the risks even in an 'anonymous' environment to our manual
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<p>00:25 < mids> and I invite lizzy__ to start with that chapter.
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<p>00:25 < mids> .
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<p>00:25 < Nostradumbass> That's why passing your text through multiple language translators can be useful
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<p>00:27 * mids passes the microphone back to the audience
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<p>00:28 < mids> oh, excuse for joining that late, if someone can send me the logs of the first 15 minutes then I would much appreciate it.
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<p>00:28 < mids> .
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<p>00:29 < mrflibble> ooh
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<p>00:29 < mrflibble> gotcha
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<p>00:29 < mrflibble> mids, make that about 5 minutes :)
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<p>00:29 < mids> heh.
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<p>00:30 < mids> did nop already say something about 1.1-final?
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<p>00:30 < mids> like when we claim that it will be released ;)
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<p>00:31 < mrflibble> nope
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<p>00:31 < mrflibble> ill send u a capture
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<p>00:31 < mids> gracias
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<p>00:31 < mrflibble> shit, i cant
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<p>00:31 * mrflibble slaps mrflibble around a bit with a large trout
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<p>00:31 < mrflibble> ill cut and paste
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<p>00:32 < mrflibble> hope i dont flood myself off
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<p>00:32 < mids> in private please
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<p>00:32 < mids> okay, now this unofficial meeting is officially closed
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<p>00:32 < mids> :)
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<p>00:32 < nemesis> looool
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<p>--- Log closed Wed Jan 08 00:33:43 2003
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