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<h3>I2P (invisiblenet) Development Meeting 8</h3>
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Courtesy of <a href="http://www.archive.org/">the wayback machine</a>.
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<p>--- Log opened Tue Aug 13 23:58:45 2002
<p>23:58 [Users #iip-dev]
<p>23:58 [@logger]
<p>23:58 -!- Irssi: #iip-dev: Total of 1 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 0 normal]
<p>23:58 -!- Irssi: Join to #iip-dev was synced in 1 secs
<p>23:58 -!- mode/#iip-dev [-o logger] by Trent
<p>23:58 -!- mode/#iip-dev [+nt] by Trent
<p>23:58 -!- Trent changed the topic of #iip-dev to: Info, agenda, log : http://mids.student.utwente.nl/~mids/iip/ | Tuesday 23:00 UTC - http://e-store.invisiblenet.net | topic: no meeting in progress
<p>--- Day changed Wed Aug 14 2002
<p>00:00 -!- mode/#iip-dev [+o mids] by Trent
<p>00:05 -!- mode/#iip-dev [+v logger] by mids
<p>00:31 -!- mode/#iip-dev [+o mids] by Trent
<p>00:52 &lt;@mids&gt; Info, agenda, log : http://mids.student.utwente.nl/~mids/iip/ | Tuesday 23:00 UTC - http://e-store.invisiblenet.net | topic: Welcome
<p>01:00 &lt;@mids&gt; Tue Aug 13 23:00:00 UTC 2002
<p>01:00 &lt;@mids&gt; Meeting nr 8!
<p>01:00 &lt;@mids&gt; everybody ready?
<p>01:00 &lt; Neo&gt; yes
<p>01:00 &lt; nop&gt; welcome
<p>01:00 &lt;@mids&gt; thanks
<p>01:01 &lt;@mids&gt; as a sidenote, I feel that my connection is unreliable.. I can die every second
<p>01:01 &lt;@mids&gt; logs are available on http://mids.student.utwente.nl/~mids/iip/
<p>01:01 &lt;@mids&gt; Agenda for today:
<p>01:01 &lt;@mids&gt; 1) Welcome
<p>01:01 &lt;@mids&gt; 2) RC2
<p>01:01 &lt;@mids&gt; 3) Mac OS 9
<p>01:01 &lt;@mids&gt; 4) Website preview
<p>01:01 &lt;@mids&gt; A) Questions?
<p>01:01 &lt;@mids&gt; if you have anything to ask or add.. do so
<p>01:02 &lt;@mids&gt; otherwise I suggest we go to item nr2
<p>01:02 &lt;@mids&gt; .
<p>01:02 &lt;@mids&gt; great
<p>01:02 &lt;@mids&gt; 2) RC2
<p>01:03 &lt;@mids&gt; it should be out months ago :)
<p>01:03 &lt;@mids&gt; but it isnt due to various reasons
<p>01:03 &lt;@mids&gt; the biggest one is the summer/vacation period
<p>01:03 &lt;@mids&gt; as far as I know we are waiting on the relay checker that has to be modified for RC2
<p>01:04 &lt;@mids&gt; last month UserX has squished some more bugs
<p>01:04 &lt;@mids&gt; but nothing serious
<p>01:04 &lt;@mids&gt; once codeshark is back in business.. there is hope
<p>01:05 &lt;@mids&gt; waiting for nop to add optional info
<p>01:05 &lt;@mids&gt; so just have patience
<p>01:05 &lt;@mids&gt; we are doing our best.. working with the resources available
<p>01:05 &lt;@mids&gt; .
<p>01:06 &lt;@mids&gt; according to nop there is an issue with the PRNG
<p>01:06 &lt; nop&gt; for the inner key
<p>01:06 &lt;@mids&gt; Pseudo Random Number Generator
<p>01:06 &lt; nop&gt; technology
<p>01:06 &lt; nop&gt; for rc2
<p>01:06 &lt; nop&gt; it has an initialization problem
<p>01:06 &lt; nop&gt; that is being worked on
<p>01:07 &lt; nop&gt; but it is slow
<p>01:07 &lt; nop&gt; and userx is moving at this time, so it makes it double slow
<p>01:07 &lt; nop&gt; .
<p>01:07 &lt;@mids&gt; .
<p>01:07 &lt;@mids&gt; so keep up the hope and lets move to the next item
<p>01:07 &lt;@mids&gt; which is... 3) Mac OS 9
<p>01:07 &lt; nop&gt; ok
<p>01:07 &lt; nop&gt; crunch has given me info on that
<p>01:08 &lt; nop&gt; someone just donated another 300 dollars
<p>01:08 &lt; nop&gt; to the project
<p>01:08 &lt; nop&gt; which is awesome
<p>01:08 &lt; nop&gt; crunch and bob are working on the gui and bob is fixing up the socket stuff
<p>01:08 &lt; nop&gt; it's more of a time issue as they are working on another project
<p>01:08 &lt;@mids&gt; how much $ are collected for the port now?
<p>01:08 &lt; nop&gt; but
<p>01:09 &lt; nop&gt; physically 1100
<p>01:09 &lt; nop&gt; is all the money that has been collected
<p>01:09 &lt; nop&gt; we would like to get up to 3500 total
<p>01:09 &lt; nop&gt; if possible
<p>01:09 &lt; nop&gt; so anyone wanting to even donate a dollar
<p>01:09 &lt; nop&gt; would help
<p>01:09 &lt;@mids&gt; so... if you want to have the mac os 9 port for IIP done... contact nop
<p>01:09 &lt; nop&gt; to pay for the development time of Cap'n Crunch and his partner bob
<p>01:09 &lt; Robert&gt; Excellent news. Let Neo or I know if you want another request to be put in on the DC front page.
<p>01:09 &lt; nop&gt; plse
<p>01:10 &lt; nop&gt; another request would be great Robert
<p>01:10 &lt;@mids&gt; I suggest we start doing p
<p>01:10 &lt; nop&gt; we've delivered 700 to Crunch
<p>01:10 &lt;@mids&gt; ublic announces every hour on IIP
<p>01:10 &lt; nop&gt; and 300 will be delivered next week
<p>01:10 &lt;@mids&gt; just like OPN used to do :)
<p>01:10 * Neo thinks we should put in a 30 minute NAG screen on the os9 app until we get over $3500 :)
<p>01:10 &lt; nop&gt; haha
<p>01:10 &lt; nop&gt; I believe it's a bad idea
<p>01:10 &lt; nop&gt; let's just request
<p>01:11 &lt; nop&gt; not nag
<p>01:11 &lt;@mids&gt; kay :/
<p>01:11 &lt;@mids&gt; .
<p>01:11 * Neo thinks maybe a "I use os9 and have not donated" message broadcast from os9 users also. :)
<p>01:12 &lt; Neo&gt; just kidding
<p>01:12 &lt; nop&gt; hehe
<p>01:12 &lt; ellison&gt; there are a few Mac software companies that put funny requests in pop-ups when you first load the program
<p>01:12 &lt;@mids&gt; maybe an article on macworld?
<p>01:12 &lt; ellison&gt; I've found that approach to the the most effective with me personally
<p>01:13 &lt;@mids&gt; .
<p>01:14 &lt;@mids&gt; lets move on.. cause we have some exciting news!
<p>01:14 &lt; nop&gt; .
<p>01:14 &lt;@mids&gt; which is...
<p>01:14 &lt;@mids&gt; the
<p>01:14 &lt;@mids&gt; Website!
<p>01:14 &lt;@mids&gt; 4) Website preview
<p>01:14 &lt;@mids&gt; specially for you a sneak preview
<p>01:14 &lt;@mids&gt; http://www.citystateinc.com/ellison/invisiblenet/index.html
<p>01:15 &lt;@mids&gt; dont forget to click through to the "Invisible IRC Project" in the upper right corner
<p>01:15 &lt;@mids&gt; ellison just released this preview, he is working on the templates now
<p>01:15 &lt;@mids&gt; after that, copy has to be made to fill the blanks
<p>01:16 &lt;@mids&gt; I think we can have the website live pretty soon
<p>01:16 &lt;@mids&gt; .
<p>01:16 &lt; ellison&gt; we're almost there
<p>01:17 &lt;@mids&gt; comments?
<p>01:17 * mids thinks that everybody is still gasping at the site
<p>01:17 &lt; ellison&gt; i think everyone has passed out from joy and hasn't made it back up on their chairs yet
<p>01:17 &lt; nop&gt; haha
<p>01:18 &lt;@mids&gt; next topic? or are we going too fast?
<p>01:19 &lt;@mids&gt; topic nr 5.. requested by Neo
<p>01:19 &lt;@mids&gt; the ! channels with channel mode +a
<p>01:20 &lt;@mids&gt; on this irc server there can
<p>01:20 &lt;@mids&gt; err
<p>01:20 &lt;@mids&gt; you can create special ! channels
<p>01:20 &lt;@mids&gt; to create them, type /join !!channelname
<p>01:20 &lt;@mids&gt; then you get a channel like: !A4CEQchannelname
<p>01:21 &lt;@mids&gt; this strange prefix is there to prevent channel collisions after netsplits, some obscure test by the ircnet programmers
<p>01:21 &lt;@mids&gt; but, these channels have something special
<p>01:21 &lt;@mids&gt; you can set the +a mode
<p>01:21 &lt;@mids&gt; with /mode !A4CEQchannelname +a
<p>01:21 &lt;@mids&gt; then the channel becomes truely anonymous
<p>01:22 &lt;@mids&gt; everybody his/her nick becomes 'anonymous'
<p>01:22 &lt;@mids&gt; so you dont know who is talking
<p>01:22 &lt;@mids&gt; try it out.. join !anonymous for a demo
<p>01:23 &lt;@mids&gt; so remember.. to create ! channels: /join !!channel
<p>01:24 &lt;@mids&gt; to join an existing channel: /join !channel
<p>01:24 &lt;@mids&gt; then set +a mode (if you are operator) /mode !prefixchannelname +a
<p>01:24 &lt;@mids&gt; this mode cant be unset
<p>01:24 &lt;@mids&gt; .
<p>01:25 &lt;@mids&gt; that was my topic list for today
<p>01:25 &lt;@mids&gt; any questions?
<p>01:26 &lt;@mids&gt; nope?
<p>01:26 &lt; Robert&gt; No sir.
<p>01:27 &lt;@mids&gt; then I'll end my monologue :)
<p>--- Log closed Wed Aug 14 01:28:33 2002
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