diff --git a/apps/addressbook/java/src/net/i2p/addressbook/Servlet.java b/apps/addressbook/java/src/net/i2p/addressbook/Servlet.java
index beb225ca0d..9b386b423a 100644
--- a/apps/addressbook/java/src/net/i2p/addressbook/Servlet.java
+++ b/apps/addressbook/java/src/net/i2p/addressbook/Servlet.java
@@ -84,7 +84,7 @@ public class Servlet extends HttpServlet {
         this.thread.setDaemon(true);
         this.thread.setName("Addressbook");
         this.thread.start();
-        System.out.println("INFO: Starting Addressbook " + Daemon.VERSION);
+        //System.out.println("INFO: Starting Addressbook " + Daemon.VERSION);
         //System.out.println("INFO: config root under " + args[0]);
     }
 
diff --git a/apps/jetty/build.xml b/apps/jetty/build.xml
index 8901d2fa40..f65c75208b 100644
--- a/apps/jetty/build.xml
+++ b/apps/jetty/build.xml
@@ -139,7 +139,8 @@
     <target name="jar" depends="compile, jarUpToDate, listChangedFiles" unless="jar.uptodate" >
         <!-- set if unset -->
         <property name="workspace.changes.tr" value="" />
-        <jar destfile="./jettylib/jetty-i2p.jar" basedir="./build/obj" includes="**/*.class" >
+        <copy todir="build/obj" file="resources/log4j.properties" />
+        <jar destfile="./jettylib/jetty-i2p.jar" basedir="./build/obj" includes="**/*.class log4j.properties" >
             <manifest>
                 <attribute name="Build-Date" value="${build.timestamp}" />
                 <attribute name="Base-Revision" value="${workspace.version}" />
diff --git a/apps/jetty/resources/log4j.properties b/apps/jetty/resources/log4j.properties
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..8899c004be
--- /dev/null
+++ b/apps/jetty/resources/log4j.properties
@@ -0,0 +1,9 @@
+
+# This is not needed by Jetty - but it helps with many web apps.
+
+log4j.rootLogger=INFO, stdout
+
+log4j.appender.stdout=org.apache.log4j.ConsoleAppender
+log4j.appender.stdout.layout=org.apache.log4j.PatternLayout
+log4j.appender.stdout.layout.ConversionPattern=%-4r [%t] %-5p %c %x - %m%n
+
diff --git a/apps/routerconsole/java/src/net/i2p/router/web/RouterConsoleRunner.java b/apps/routerconsole/java/src/net/i2p/router/web/RouterConsoleRunner.java
index 7c057de5ef..db9161fb26 100644
--- a/apps/routerconsole/java/src/net/i2p/router/web/RouterConsoleRunner.java
+++ b/apps/routerconsole/java/src/net/i2p/router/web/RouterConsoleRunner.java
@@ -221,7 +221,11 @@ public class RouterConsoleRunner {
         if (!workDirCreated)
             System.err.println("ERROR: Unable to create Jetty temporary work directory");
         
-        Log.setLog(new I2PLogger(I2PAppContext.getGlobalContext()));
+        try {
+            Log.setLog(new I2PLogger(I2PAppContext.getGlobalContext()));
+        } catch (Throwable t) {
+            System.err.println("INFO: I2P Jetty logging class not found, logging to wrapper log");
+        }
         // so Jetty can find WebAppConfiguration
         System.setProperty("jetty.class.path", I2PAppContext.getGlobalContext().getBaseDir() + "/lib/routerconsole.jar");
         _server = new Server();