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{% block content %}<h3>I2P dev meeting, December 5, 2006</h3>
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<p>15:00 &lt; jrandom&gt; 0) hi</p>
<p>15:00 &lt; jrandom&gt; 1) Net status</p>
<p>15:00 &lt; jrandom&gt; 2) Syndie dev status</p>
<p>15:00 &lt; jrandom&gt; 3) iToopie</p>
<p>15:00 &lt; jrandom&gt; 4) ???</p>
<p>15:00 &lt; jrandom&gt; 0) hi</p>
<p>15:00  * jrandom waves</p>
<p>15:00 &lt; jrandom&gt; weekly status notes posted up at http://dev.i2p.net/pipermail/i2p/2006-December/001321.html</p>
<p>15:01 &lt; jrandom&gt; (almost two hours before the meeting, too! :)</p>
<p>15:01 &lt; jrandom&gt; ok, lets jump on in to 1) net status</p>
<p>15:01 &lt; jrandom&gt; things are going pretty well, no big change on this front</p>
<p>15:02  * jrandom has been connected to irc here for 20 days now, too (a record, i believe)</p>
<p>15:03 &lt; jrandom&gt; not much more to add on this front though atm</p>
<p>15:03 &lt; jrandom&gt; so, if there's nothing else on it, lets jump forward to 2) syndie dev status</p>
<p>15:04 &lt; jrandom&gt; progress continues here, with more bits and bobs becoming workable</p>
<p>15:04 &lt; jrandom&gt; its still quite rough though... "utilitarian", but graphically utilitarian ;)</p>
<p>15:05 &lt; jrandom&gt; the alpha isn't imminent though, but i hope to have it ready soon</p>
<p>15:07 &lt; jrandom&gt; in any case, more info as it comes about :)</p>
<p>15:08 &lt; jrandom&gt; ok, lets jump briefly on over to 3) iToopie</p>
<p>15:08 &lt; jrandom&gt; as mentioned in the notes, Thanks y'all!  :)</p>
<p>15:08 &lt; jrandom&gt; ok, continuing on in rapid fire to 4) ???</p>
<p>15:08 &lt; jrandom&gt; anyone have anything they'd like to bring up for the meeting?</p>
<p>15:10 &lt; jrandom&gt; (its probably been a year or two since our last 10 minute meeting, but perhaps that's for the best)</p>
<p>15:10 &lt;+fox&gt; &lt;Ch0Hag&gt; Hey wow. Totally by accident I am actually present for an I2P meeting.</p>
<p>15:11 &lt;+fox&gt; &lt;Ch0Hag&gt; Hi mum!</p>
<p>15:11 &lt;+fox&gt; &lt;Ch0Hag&gt; This is going in the logs right? :)</p>
<p>15:11 &lt; jrandom&gt; heh yeah ch0 ;)</p>
<p>15:12 &lt;+fox&gt; &lt;Ch0Hag&gt; Because of course my mum reads I2P meeting logs...</p>
<p>15:12 &lt; burl&gt; i was going to ask about the licensing but i just read the answer on www.i2p (why not gpl?)</p>
<p>15:13 &lt; jrandom&gt; gpl kills babies</p>
<p>15:13  * jrandom ducks</p>
<p>15:13 &lt; burl&gt; i have to print them out for my mum. she's not very good with computers</p>
<p>15:13 &lt; jrandom&gt; heheh</p>
<p>15:14 &lt; burl&gt; i've been reading all about the free software movement recently. ethically it seems bang on</p>
<p>15:14 &lt; burl&gt; closed source is evil :)</p>
<p>15:14 &lt; jrandom&gt; good, evil, they're all the same.  what matters here is that closed source is /insecure/ ;)</p>
<p>15:15 &lt; jrandom&gt; (syndie license summary @ http://syndie.i2p.net/faq.html#license less religious license info for i2p @ http://www.i2p.net/licenses )</p>
<p>15:15 &lt; burl&gt; yeah, that did cross my mind too. if some evil company stole syndie and made a "better" closed version, who'd trust it?</p>
<p>15:16 &lt; jrandom&gt; you can't steal whats free</p>
<p>15:16 &lt; burl&gt; yeah, but i mean made changes to the source and didn't let you see them</p>
<p>15:17 &lt; jrandom&gt; changes to /your copy/ of the source.  my copy of the source is still exactly as it was before, and still exactly as free ;)</p>
<p>15:17 &lt; jrandom&gt; but, yeah, i understand.  disagree, but understand</p>
<p>15:18 &lt; jrandom&gt; all things considered, open source&gt;&gt;closed source, and while gpl has some nasty limits, its sufficient for many things, and open enough for security</p>
<p>15:18 &lt; burl&gt; because no-one would trust the closed version so it could never take over in popularity</p>
<p>15:20 &lt; jrandom&gt; aye</p>
<p>15:21 &lt; jrandom&gt; licence rants are always good ways to fill up 10m of meeting logs ;)</p>
<p>15:21 &lt; jrandom&gt; ok, anyone have anything else for the meeting?</p>
<p>15:23 &lt;+fox&gt; &lt;Ch0Hag&gt; Well if you need more meeting time - why Java?</p>
<p>15:23 &lt;+fox&gt; &lt;Ch0Hag&gt; I mean ewww!</p>
<p>15:23 &lt; jrandom&gt; !thwap</p>
<p>15:24  * jrandom winds up</p>
<p>15:24  * jrandom *baf*s the meeting closed</p>
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